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#3182402 15-Jan-2024 20:00

Rikkitic:

Apparently she's back. I will be very interested to hear what she has to say. I will give her a few days to settle in and collect her thoughts, but if there is no reasonable communication by the end of the week I will gladly join the mob baying for her blood.

You are being too nice. She should have her thoughts "collected" the moment she landed back here.

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#3182478 15-Jan-2024 21:24

It is certainly not looking good for her. She really needs to make a statement now. This is a big deal and I was reluctant to join the judgement mob but I agree it is now more than time for her and the Greens leadership to go public over this.

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#3182484 15-Jan-2024 22:27

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/green-mp-golriz-ghahraman-faces-further-shoplifting-allegations-in-wellington-report/RM77UR23JRDKPP6SESSKLJZJQM/

A Green Party spokesman told the Herald: “This is a matter for the police to investigate.”

For sure, but as her employer I would have expected a little more leadership to be shown by the Greens than what I've seen so far.

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#3182487 15-Jan-2024 22:49

Did you think Greens were any better in terms of morals than any other party?

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#3182494 16-Jan-2024 06:32

Rikkitic:

It is certainly not looking good for her. She really needs to make a statement now. This is a big deal and I was reluctant to join the judgement mob but I agree it is now more than time for her and the Greens leadership to go public over this.

I think this is getting to the point where the main priority will be making sure she has some sort of support structure around her - the longer it goes on, the more will come forward, at some point there's a well-being question that needs to be managed intensively around this.

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#3182499 16-Jan-2024 07:21

freitasm: Did you think Greens were any better in terms of morals than any other party?

I guess not, but maybe I was too optimistic. Their handling of this has been quite poor.

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#3182526 16-Jan-2024 10:07

It's been handled the same as any other party for an allegation of this nature. Ghahraman has been stood down from all portfolios until these allegations are resolved.

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#3182536 16-Jan-2024 10:12

Imo the difference here and now is the parliament is not in session. I think the part people are expecting to see and are used to is the constant reporting on the questions in parliament and the responses to those questions. That part is not going to happen until parliament resumes. No doubt the various government parties are planning that for their first day back ; ).

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#3182546 16-Jan-2024 10:33

gzt: It's been handled the same as any other party for an allegation of this nature. Ghahraman has been stood down from all portfolios until these allegations are resolved.

On the face of it, the party has known about this for three weeks.

Did we only hear about it because it was finally being reported in the media?

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#3182567 16-Jan-2024 12:23

She has resigned.

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#3182570 16-Jan-2024 12:35

GV27:

She has resigned.

This was the only possible course of action for her. I know that this form of shoplifting is a mental health issue and I hope people will leave her in peace to work out her problems. This is a huge price for her to pay and that should be enough. She has done what she should have by resigning.

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#3182621 16-Jan-2024 13:05

Rikkitic:

This was the only possible course of action for her. I know that this form of shoplifting is a mental health issue and I hope people will leave her in peace to work out her problems. This is a huge price for her to pay and that should be enough. She has done what she should have by resigning.

Genuinely the right thing for her to do, not just for her personally but also taking ownership of it and engaging with the process will help her when this inevitably reaches the Law Society. There'll be a process to go through there but she's now infinitely better placed to address it and work her way through that too.

If I was in her shoes, I'd probably be a lot happier today than I was yesterday. She's paid a price, but it's also a big step in the right direction for her.

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#3182729 16-Jan-2024 14:46

GV27:
If I was in her shoes...

I doubt they are actually her shoes.

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#3182734 16-Jan-2024 15:20

GV27:

Genuinely the right thing for her to do, not just for her personally but also taking ownership of it and engaging with the process will help her when this inevitably reaches the Law Society. ...

Agree it's the right thing.

The genuine right thing would have been for her to start addressing it when she first started doing it, which appears to date back to at least October (and not wait until she got caught).

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#3182736 16-Jan-2024 15:41

floydbloke:
GV27:

Genuinely the right thing for her to do, not just for her personally but also taking ownership of it and engaging with the process will help her when this inevitably reaches the Law Society. ...

Agree it's the right thing.

The genuine right thing would have been for her to start addressing it when she first started doing it, which appears to date back to at least October (and not wait until she got caught).

She’s taken the honourable option. Nitpicking at this stage feels gross.

I think resignation genuinely reflects well on her character. People do all sorts of things wrong for all sorts of good and bad reasons. The ones who take responsibility should be respected.

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