'Something rotten in the state of Denmark'

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#3005033 3-Dec-2022 10:50

Another one, a little but closer -

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/dec/02/climate-activist-who-blocked-traffic-on-sydney-harbour-bridge-jailed-for-at-least-eight-months

Again someone protests, new laws are added to make protests more difficult, probably to keep private business happy, jail for 8 months (for I think someone who doesn't have any 'previous'). No bail for no good reason.

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#3005037 3-Dec-2022 11:03

Key Factors for Prison Sentences in Australia

Under section 9 of the Penalties and Sentences Act 1992, the courts must take into account the following principles when sentencing an offender:

A prison sentence should only be imposed as a last resort;
The maximum and minimum penalty prescribed for the offence;
The nature and seriousness of the offence, including any physical, mental or emotional harm to the victim;
The extent to which the offender is to blame;
Any damage, injury or loss caused;
The offender’s age, character, intellectual capacity;
The presence of any aggravating or mitigating factors concerning the offender;
The prevalence of the offence;
How much assistance the offender gave to law enforcement agencies in the investigation of the offence;
Time spent in custody by the offender before being sentenced;
Sentences already imposed on the offender that have not been served;
If the offender is the subject of a community-based order;
If the offender is on bail and is required under the offender’s undertaking to attend a rehabilitation;
If the offender is Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander – any submissions made by a representative of the community justice group in the offender’s community; and
Any other relevant circumstances.

* bolded bits added by me

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#3005038 3-Dec-2022 11:16

Sounds pretty reasonable to me, if the must is actually applied.

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#3005087 3-Dec-2022 11:48

Jail for 15 months in the case above - 8 months was the minimum non-parole period.

I'm not familiar with the Sydney bridge. The defence claimed only one lane of traffic was disrupted as planned and vehicles could move around the blockage.

Additionally, denied bail while waiting for an appeal to be heard seems extreme for this kind of case, denial is usually reserved for high risk violent offenders as I understand it.

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#3007703 9-Dec-2022 11:47

Rikkitic: Key Factors for Prison Sentences in Australia

Under section 9 of the Penalties and Sentences Act 1992, the courts must take into account the following principles when sentencing an offender:

That is a Queensland act, and does not apply elsewhere in Australia.

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#3007704 9-Dec-2022 11:57

We don't have the full background.
Other articles indicate prior offences, but what will be restricted till appeals etc.

If sentencing can't withstand appeal, then they will get a reduction via appeal.
Unlike many of us being so high profile, and good cause, funding of best legal council will not be a problem.
Any unjustifiable withholding of bail will come off new sentience as well.

Having activists renting trucks repeatedly and randomly blocking busiest traffic wherever they please any time,
then things get very dangerous for everyone.
I'm sure we don't want a slow procession of Evangelicals on Auckland motorway every week until we stop sinning?

Only one lane, never heard of rubbernecking and all those late lane changes.
Police/Traffic control also have to have room to move safely around vehicle,
So its 2 lanes minimum.

Too bad if you need an ambulance, in that magic hour when your life could be saved.
Oh look over there, there is a petrol tanker.
Having been at Manukau ctiy the night of that Tanker crash, you don't want to be anywhere near that, much less stuck on a long bridge.

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#3007730 9-Dec-2022 14:26

ezbee:

Having been at Manukau ctiy the night of that Tanker crash, you don't want to be anywhere near that, much less stuck on a long bridge.

It's only happened once but when I've been in a jammed motorway, not moving and under an overpass, I will get out and stand clear of it.

I'm absolutely not being the unluckiest guy in the world if there's a quake or similar, not after being woken up in Auckland by the Kaikoura one a few years ago.

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