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#1873190 26-Sep-2017 15:58

I think Winston will want a major part in Government as its probably his last term. He could make a deal for supply and sit on the cross benched and be a pain...but I think he will want status and power for what could be his last 3 years.

So he will go with whoever offers him the most status eh Deputy dog and senior minister within Cabinet plus a few special gems like referendum on Maori seats.

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#1873244 26-Sep-2017 16:57

Easily offered by both sides. It's like going to dealer A and saying dealer B is offering me this, and both dealers have no choice but to match, so at the end of the day, I don't see either party to have any control, it's Winston's decision thanks to those who voted for him.

Unless of course National jump in bed with Greens. But someone said Greens are not interested to be in government.

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#1873319 26-Sep-2017 20:07

Maybe the Nats offer him a take it or leave it offer?

Then he would just have to take what Labour offers or nothing. That would be interesting.

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#1873322 26-Sep-2017 20:10

What happens if neither National nor Labour are willing to work with him?

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#1873333 26-Sep-2017 20:26

Then Winston Peters installs himself as prime minister and forces everybody to obey him

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#1873342 26-Sep-2017 20:46

If neither can form a coalition National or Labour could convince the Governor General that they can run the country as a minority government. It would be a nightmare and a recipe for a very early general election.

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#1873343 26-Sep-2017 20:46

Wiggum:

This whole thing has me shaking my head.

Not sure why

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#1873353 26-Sep-2017 21:08

Labour deputy leader Kelvin Davis says he's willing to step aside to allow Winston Peters to have the position of deputy Prime Minister, if needed.

So far 1 all.

Winnie is installed as Deputy PM.

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#1873356 26-Sep-2017 21:11

Geektastic: What happens if neither National nor Labour are willing to work with him?

Why would they not? The anti Peters brigade seems to think of him as the devil. Silly. Its JUST an election and JUST a negotiation. Its democratic as the majority choice will rule.

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#1873358 26-Sep-2017 21:15

MikeB4:

If neither can form a coalition National or Labour could convince the Governor General that they can run the country as a minority government. It would be a nightmare and a recipe for a very early general election.

Agree. The rash comments about Peters, Greens, and so on is a bit silly, its more a sore loser issue than a sensibility issue. Whatever your poison, most MP's want to do good. The drive from A to B just happens to differ. No one will break anything. If they scratch the glass they will be replaced in 3 years. Not dissimilar to Darwins claims.

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#1873373 26-Sep-2017 22:00

If the Nats cant reach agreement with Winston, then Winston is in a poor position where he would basically have to accept whatever Jacinda was offering, or not be in Govt at all. Be fun to watch.

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#1873404 26-Sep-2017 23:12

Pumpedd:

If the Nats cant reach agreement with Winston, then Winston is in a poor position where he would basically have to accept whatever Jacinda was offering, or not be in Govt at all. Be fun to watch.

Somehow, I doubt Jacinda will be talking.

Imagine a 35 year old ex fish and chip shop worker trying to bargain with a top lawyer and ex DPM ... hmm ...

And if she did talk it could end in tears.

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#1873439 27-Sep-2017 08:55

Here's an interesting article comparing the German election with ours. Both run on the same MMP model but with different outcomes.

One of the suggestions - a Labour/National coalition telling Winston to poke it - would be an interesting development in NZ.

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#1873445 27-Sep-2017 09:05

Batman:

Pumpedd:

If the Nats cant reach agreement with Winston, then Winston is in a poor position where he would basically have to accept whatever Jacinda was offering, or not be in Govt at all. Be fun to watch.

Somehow, I doubt Jacinda will be talking.

Imagine a 35 year old ex fish and chip shop worker trying to bargain with a top lawyer and ex DPM ... hmm ...

And if she did talk it could end in tears.

That's rather an ill advised comment which will probably make any previous comments of yours, null and void. Deal with the issues There has been enough of stupid comments like yours made by many on both sides

which show lack of debating skills. I wonder how you can form an honest opinion about what's best for the country with an attitude like you have just displayed

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#1873448 27-Sep-2017 09:14

Batman:

Somehow, I doubt Jacinda will be talking.

Imagine a 35 year old ex fish and chip shop worker trying to bargain with a top lawyer and ex DPM ... hmm ...

And if she did talk it could end in tears.

Yes we can't have her feeling bullied now can we.

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