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#3282249 15-Sep-2024 11:20

I wish they didn't indulge in any of this. It's simply not necessary with Trump as he gives you so much lunacy you can truthfully assign to him.

Fact check: Harris campaign social media account has repeatedly deceived with misleading edits and captions | CNN Politics

You tend to forget what a mess US politics is generally. When one side is so awful it hides the inadequacies of the other.

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#3282286 15-Sep-2024 12:29

Just watched that video. That's crazy fake Christian crap right there. She does speak in tongues at some point, albeit briefly.

I like the first comment on the video: "Unfortunately the angels from Africa and South America were detained at the border by immigration officials. No green card."

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#3282299 15-Sep-2024 12:49

ezbee:
Witchcraft,
Reminds me of Evangelicals preying for 'Angels from Africa' to come win an election in USA.
Of course she speaks in pidgin at this point to cement the racial insult.

Maybe Paula White was spirit possessed by Jar-Jar-Binks

George Conway tweeted that Trump "looks less like the sinister Emperor Palpatine and more like the hapless Jar Jar Binks.”

There was a Star Wars fan theory that Lucas had originally intended for Jar Jar to be revealed at the end as the top Sith Lord- the ultimate bad guy. Some hypothesized that Jar Jar's dimwitted behavior in the first two prequels was supposed to be a diversion from his evil machinations.

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#3282300 15-Sep-2024 12:51

Trump as Boss Nass

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#3282361 15-Sep-2024 14:24

SJB:

It's simply not necessary with Trump as he gives you so much lunacy you can truthfully assign to him.

I do agree.

But was Harris SM misleading or flat out lying? Id like to know how many straight up lies Trump has told to mislead.

If media were following peoples concerns they would be concentrating their reporting on Trumps age and mental health. Plenty of independent Psychs have already raised the warning as have his ex aides, the guy could be dangerous second time around. Do a full 60 min length investigation on why people consider Trump more than Old and Incompetent, but actually show why hes potentially Dangerous. People still think thats just Trump mouthing off.

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#3282372 15-Sep-2024 16:42

RTWH has her needing to only firm up 44 of the 67 (which would be decisive but she could as easily lose those less than 5% states.

The easy way WI, Mich, Penn. But she could go, if it holds, NC, MI, WI, NV

If Trump does some how get PA, one of her alternative routes would anger him no end.

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#3282380 15-Sep-2024 18:09

The "Kings" stimulants failed him.

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#3282382 15-Sep-2024 18:16

An article from the Stanford Law Review explains that the Trump's Project 2025 "unitary executive theory" actually gives more power to the President than the King of Great Britain in 1787 (when the Constitution of the United States was framed).

In short, Trump wants more than the powers than the British "Mad King" George III, 1760 to 1820.

Trump’s Project 2025: School House Rock Style

The Tony Michaels Podcast
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Conservative: "Turn the swearing in into a coronation America's great salvation
It will arrive with project 2025 coronation."

Child: "you mean like a king."

Conservative: "no, it's called the unitary executive theory. It gives the next president unchecked power
to do whatever they want."

Child: "so a king"

Conservative: "oh, let's not get hung up on semantics"
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#3282383 15-Sep-2024 18:18

I think Trump's sane washing and avoiding the same issues they GRILLED Biden for during the first Debate, hes lost it.

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#3282400 15-Sep-2024 19:42

kingdragonfly: There was a Star Wars fan theory that Lucas had originally intended for Jar Jar to be revealed at the end as the top Sith Lord- the ultimate bad guy.

Specifically, google "Darth Jar Jar". The "evidence" is as least as good as 99% of the conspiracy theories on Fox.

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#3282403 15-Sep-2024 20:28

Harris is at the peak at 49% avg imo, something has to bring Trump down from around ~45%

Surely the media can do a better job focusing on Trumps age and mental health post that debate when it was all on display.

There is some but it should be at the same levels for Biden, or close to it. There is plenty of other footage to back it up. Its a slightly different issue but both going into decline, do the people really want that....

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#3282430 16-Sep-2024 07:07

BBC News - US election polls: Who is ahead - Harris or Trump?

today

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#3282501 16-Sep-2024 09:59

Latest GE polls in

Ipsos for ABC (multiple polls 11-13th) (7am 15th update) +6% Harris

YouGov (multiple 11-13th, released 14th) Harris +5%

Title for latest Ipsos/abc poll "Harris Seen as Debate Winner Yet the Contest Does Not Budge"

and from yahoo/yougov poll "After debate, Harris surges to 5-point lead over Trump among registered voters in head-to-head matchup"

I dunno about the ABC poll title, 5-6% if that remains consistant in such a tight race, I think it has budged after RFKjr pulling out of the swing states only, Harris effectively lost 0.8-1% very quickly, was expected to be only 0.5% of independents. However nearly as quickly posts debate and a Swifty, Harris lead is getting back to its pre debate avg, imo. From that poll 58% vs 36% in favor of Harris winning the poll. also Biden never got above 50% in his polls, in these multiple abc polls Harris was 50-52%. They just need something significant to lower Trumps.

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just a tip, they lag somewhat, if you want same day, well actually you will see the screen flicker as it updates at a guess every 5-15 mins, Race to the WH has all those on the one page. https://www.racetothewh.com/president/polls

the top is the GE Polls, with its trendline.

under the Map you get the Swing State avgs.

I still use 538 for less granular stuff like favorability and Congressional polling at a glance.

Harris just cant break into the favorable lol, peaked at unfavorable +0.1, today +0.3, but miles ahead of Trump unfavorable +9.6

Dems ahead at +2.1 Generic ballot : 2024 Polls | FiveThirtyEight

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#3282521 16-Sep-2024 11:25

TeaLeaf:

From that poll 58% vs 36% in favor of Harris winning the poll.

oops, my brain fog.

I meant in favor of Harris winning the debate. I thought I read somewhere (don't quote me), his die hard loyal maga base is 30%, which is odd given GOP is still 70% regular Republicans/values.

Id say given that, its a clear win by by Harris with many saying it was clinical. In a normal US democracy, it could well have been more like 90% thought Harris won etc. It is what it is.

Here are the reports from those polls, if interested in drilling down further.

ABC/IPSOS https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1236a1AftertheHarris-TrumpDebate.pdf

Yahoo/YouGov https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-yahoo-newsyougov-poll-after-debate-harris-surges-to-5-point-lead-over-trump-among-registered-voters-in-head-to-head-matchup-122213811.html

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#3282558 16-Sep-2024 12:17

Another Trump assassination attempt. An agent engaged the potential shooter before any shots were fired:

CNN: A Secret Service agent spotted a rifle barrel sticking out of fence and “engaged” with the suspect, Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw said at a news conference late Sunday afternoon. The suspect fled in a car and was taken into custody after being stopped on the highway. The gunman was 300 to 500 yards away from Trump, a Secret Service official said. Law enforcement found an AK-47 style rifle, GoPro and backpacks where the suspect was positioned, Bradshaw said.

The suspect is said to be a resident of Hawaii. Trump has immediately updated his fundraising website.

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