Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2248745 30-May-2019 21:13

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White House Wanted USS John McCain ‘Out of Sight’ During Trump Japan Visit

Pathetic. 😕

Trump is a very malicious little man.

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#2248845 31-May-2019 07:28

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#2248847 31-May-2019 07:37

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#2248878 31-May-2019 09:07

Time - President Trump Tweets That Russia Helped Him Get Elected, Then Quickly Backtracks

May 30, 2019 9:50 AM ET

(WASHINGTON) — President Donald Trump blasted special counsel Robert Mueller on Thursday, calling him a “never Trumper” who led a biased investigation on Russia’s interference in the 2016 election and failed to investigate his opponents who didn’t want Trump to be president.

Trump’s eruption came a day after Mueller pointedly rejected his repeated claims that he was cleared of obstruction of justice allegations and that the two-year inquiry was merely a “witch hunt.”

The president also offered mixed messages on Russia’s efforts to help him defeat Democrat Hillary Clinton, first tweeting that he had “nothing to do with Russia helping me get elected,” then minutes later, telling reporters: “Russia did not help me get elected.” ...

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#2248922 31-May-2019 09:14

I remember this story from 2018

My people came to me, [Director of National Intelligence] Dan Coats came to me and some others saying they think it's Russia.

I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia,” Trump said. “I will say this, I don’t see any reason why it would be.”

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#2248961 31-May-2019 10:22

kingdragonfly: I remember this story from 2018 ...

... and I remember another story from 2018 ...

The Washington Post - Andrew McCabe, Trump’s foil at the FBI, is fired hours before he could retire

March 17, 2018

Attorney General Jeff Sessions late Friday night fired former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe, a little more than 24 hours before McCabe was set to retire ...

The result was that McCabe was publicly humiliated and lost his pension after decades of service.

Mueller is due to retire soon.

I wonder if Trump will pull the same cruel trick on Mueller?

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#2249236 31-May-2019 17:06

Another brilliant plan from The Stable Genius:

The New York Times - Trump Says U.S. Will Hit Mexico With 5% Tariffs on All Goods

May 30, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump said Thursday that he would impose a 5 percent tariff on all imported goods from Mexico beginning June 10, a tax that would “gradually increase” until the flow of undocumented immigrants across the border stopped. ...

The tariff would begin at 5 percent on June 10 and gradually rise to 25 percent by October.

This defies logic ... 🙃

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#2249258 31-May-2019 18:11

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/census-citizenship-question-hofeller.html

Deceased G.O.P. Strategist’s Hard Drives Reveal New Details on the Census Citizenship Question

Thomas B. Hofeller, a leading Republican strategist, died in August and left a trove of computer files containing evidence that could now be relevant in a Supreme Court case.

WASHINGTON — Thomas B. Hofeller achieved near-mythic status in the Republican Party as the Michelangelo of gerrymandering, the architect of partisan political maps that cemented the party’s dominance across the country.

But after he died last summer, his estranged daughter discovered hard drives in her father’s home that revealed something else: Mr. Hofeller had played a crucial role in the Trump administration’s decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census.

Files on those drives showed that he wrote a study in 2015 concluding that adding a citizenship question to the census would allow Republicans to draft even more extreme gerrymandered maps to stymie Democrats. And months after urging President Trump’s transition team to tack the question onto the census, he wrote the key portion of a draft Justice Department letter claiming the question was needed to enforce the 1965 Voting Rights Act — the rationale the administration later used to justify its decision.

Those documents, cited in a federal court filing Thursday by opponents seeking to block the citizenship question, have emerged only weeks before the Supreme Court is expected to rule on the legality of the citizenship question. Critics say adding the question would deter many immigrants from being counted and shift political power to Republican areas.

The disclosures represent the most explicit evidence to date that the Trump administration added the question to the 2020 census to advance Republican Party interests.
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#2249453 1-Jun-2019 09:04

The New York Times - Trump’s Tariff Threat Sends Mexico, Lawmakers and Businesses Scrambling

May 31, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump’s threat to punish Mexico with tariffs until it restrains the flow of migrants across the southwestern border rattled financial markets on Friday and prompted pushback from the Mexican government, American businesses and Republican lawmakers, who accused Mr. Trump of overstepping his authority and pressed him to back down.

The president has made frequent use of tariffs to force trade concessions from other governments, including Mexico, Canada, China and Europe.

But he raised the stakes on Thursday night by threatening to hit the United States’ ally and its largest trading partner with tariffs for issues related to immigration, not trade.

Republican lawmakers, who have rarely challenged the president, objected to the move, saying tariffs were the wrong tool to try to address illegal immigration.

But Mr. Trump, who is invoking emergency powers to impose tariffs of up to 25 percent on all Mexican goods, showed no signs of relenting.

He said on Friday that he would proceed with tariffs that could hurt American consumers and some of its biggest companies, including automakers, agricultural companies and retailers. ...

Trump is again claiming that Mexico will pay the tariffs.

And that tariffs will reduce illegal immigration and the drug trade.

Here is a random current selection from Trump's Twitter site:

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#2249457 1-Jun-2019 09:19

Trump Admits Russia Helped Elect Him

Jimmy Kimmel Live

Robert Mueller made a statement which gave Trump something fun to tweet about. Trump was up bright and early ranting and raving during a category 5 tweetstorm during which, he inadvertently made a bigly admission that he had nothing to do with Russia helping him to get elected.

Trump is also pushing back hard against reports that the White House instructed the Navy to hide the USS John McCain from his view during his visit to Japan last weekend. The White House reportedly asked that the USS John McCain be hidden because it might upset him. Trump claims he didn't know anything about this.

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#2249460 1-Jun-2019 09:51

kingdragonfly:

... Trump is also pushing back hard against reports that the White House instructed the Navy to hide the USS John McCain from his view during his visit to Japan last weekend.

The White House reportedly asked that the USS John McCain be hidden because it might upset him. Trump claims he didn't know anything about this.

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#2249466 1-Jun-2019 10:28

Guaranteed that Trump's golfing buddies will be pre-warned and make a killing shorting stocks and trading commodity futures prior to his seemingly random announcements.
It's a great way to set up a loyal oligarchy - and a much bigger and more dangerous oligarchy than Putin's.

The risk to Trump is that he creates a global depression that he can't climb out of prior to 2020 - which will make him unelectable. As China won't back down, Trump will relent and spin it as a victory. The Mexico tariff is a distraction. Trump can claim "it worked" with no proof anything changed. Mexico is also keen to nail the drug cartels for example, so some agreement for the US and Mexico to work together can be spun as proof of Trump's greatness, justify removing or not implementing the tariffs.

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#2249501 1-Jun-2019 11:05

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kingdragonfly: It's hard to answer your rhetorical question without obvious virtue signaling.

Trump can bring about vast death tolls by just being impetuous, ill prepared, goaded or even bought off.

He encourages more strong arm politics and dictatorships worldwide.

It goes way beyond being able to buy something.

It wasn't a rhetorical question.

True, Trump could bring about vast death tolls.

Putin and Kim Il Jong are probably just as capable/likely of bringing about vast death tolls. Both of whom have been responsible for carrying out assassinations on foreign soil of people who oppose them. Trump hasn't done that, at least yet.

For some reason there's a fascination in this country with Trump. Perhaps that's because we get a lot of our news feeds from the US. I think Trump gets far more airplay in our media than he deserves. I think he's an idiot with most of what he does though I think he does get some things right, whether that's by design or by accident is another story.

One of Trumps few attributes is he says what he thinks. Whether or not we like what he says, at least we know where he stands. You cannot say that for the likes of Hillary Clinton who will tell you what she thinks you want to hear. It's a sad commentary that these were the two choices for the President of the USA.

There's other world leaders whom I think deserve more attention for what they do and how they might affect us. I've mention two above and there's a third and that is Xi Jinping. They are effectively dictators who can do what they please, unlike Trump who is bound by some checks and balances.

Trump was elected through an open fair democratic process. I'm not sure the same can be said for Putin, Kin Il Jong or Xi Jinping. With the possible exception of Putin it's very unlikely the citizens of these countries will ever get the chance to have a say in who leads them.

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To further illustrate my point, can you imagine a parody about Putin, Kim Il Jong or Xi Jinping similar to the one linked in the post above being allowed to play in their respective countries. Just imagine what would happen to anyone who produced anything like this.

I read that Kim had executed his entire diplomatic/foreign affairs team upon arrival in Pyongyang for failed negotiation with Donald Trump, under the official charge of being spies.

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#2249509 1-Jun-2019 11:13

What's going on here?

I started a thread about Trumpy back when he was campaigning to be the next president. It was locked (at my request) back in 2016. Now my old thread seems to have been merged with the current trump thread.

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#2249513 1-Jun-2019 11:22

Correct. The second Trump thread was merged I to this one.

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