Christopher Luxon, New Zealand Prime Minister 2023

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#3207837 19-Mar-2024 09:05

It's unreasonable to expect tax brackets to be adjusted more than once a decade, I see no issues with her making that a bottom line.

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#3207906 19-Mar-2024 11:31

sen8or: Comparing Labour to Nazi Germany was at best just plain stupid but he was playing to his audience, just as he has always done. There was a meme on facebook at one stage comparing the methods of control through propoganda between the two, depending on your thoughts of the Labour / Ardern administration,

which is all very similar to some of the early GroundSwell 'protest' signs and the various imagery depicting Ardern as a you know what.

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#3208053 19-Mar-2024 15:20

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Where are the comments from ministers that we may not get any tax cuts? I must have missed those.

I note that he has recently provided some clarification (and confirmation): https://www.thepress.co.nz/politics/350217320/pm-confirms-tax-cuts-july-questions-remain

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#3208059 19-Mar-2024 15:35

quickymart:

GV27:

Where are the comments from ministers that we may not get any tax cuts? I must have missed those.

I note that he has recently provided some clarification (and confirmation): https://www.thepress.co.nz/politics/350217320/pm-confirms-tax-cuts-july-questions-remain

He has. Nicola the other day stated that they are not guaranteed, or words to that effect

Quote "Meanwhile, Finance Minister Nicola Willis denies the $5.6 shortfall, but says she won't guarantee promised tax cuts will arrive in July until the policy has been discussed by Cabinet."

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#3208145 19-Mar-2024 19:05

UK band Chumbawumba hears about Peters' recent Godwin and use of their song Tubthumping at NZF events - wants their song back

The band calls Peters "bigoted". Not a great advertisement for NZ unfortunately. I'm surprised it was chosen in the first place - lyrics about drinking with the frequent repitition "pissing the night away".

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#3208165 19-Mar-2024 20:25

Sooo the party that makes so much noise and antipathy to new taxes and tax and spend?
National has been born again.
Budget speech maybe replaced with 'speaking in tongues'

PM refuses to rule out new taxes to pay for tax cut plan
https://thespinoff.co.nz/the-bulletin/19-03-2024/pm-refuses-to-rule-out-new-taxes-to-pay-for-tax-cut-plan

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PM won’t rule out new taxes
At a post-cabinet press conference described by the Herald’s Thomas Coughlan as “slightly chaotic” (paywalled), prime minister Christopher Luxon stuck with the promise of tax cuts being delivered in this year’s Budget on May 30 but would not say whether they would be the size promised in the coalition agreement and would not rule out new taxes to pay for the tax cut plan, including new taxes on working people.
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#3208277 20-Mar-2024 06:38

tdgeek:

He has. Nicola the other day stated that they are not guaranteed, or words to that effect

Quote "Meanwhile, Finance Minister Nicola Willis denies the $5.6 shortfall, but says she won't guarantee promised tax cuts will arrive in July until the policy has been discussed by Cabinet."

OK, but to get there, you have to skip this bit literally right at the start of the article:

"Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has confirmed New Zealanders will see a tax cut in July".

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#3208466 20-Mar-2024 11:01

GV27:

tdgeek:

He has. Nicola the other day stated that they are not guaranteed, or words to that effect

Quote "Meanwhile, Finance Minister Nicola Willis denies the $5.6 shortfall, but says she won't guarantee promised tax cuts will arrive in July until the policy has been discussed by Cabinet."

OK, but to get there, you have to skip this bit literally right at the start of the article:

"Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has confirmed New Zealanders will see a tax cut in July".

Yeah that's why I stated "he has" from Quicky's post

Now, I thought I read yesterday he said no new taxes, now Ezbee's post says can't rule it out?

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#3208473 20-Mar-2024 11:28

tdgeek: Yeah that's why I stated "he has" from Quicky's post

Now, I thought I read yesterday he said no new taxes, now Ezbee's post says can't rule it out?

Knowing Luxon he'll just raise GST to make up for it. Just shifting the tax instead of cutting it.

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#3208477 20-Mar-2024 11:37

michaelmurfy:

tdgeek: Yeah that's why I stated "he has" from Quicky's post

Now, I thought I read yesterday he said no new taxes, now Ezbee's post says can't rule it out?

Knowing Luxon he'll just raise GST to make up for it. Just shifting the tax instead of cutting it.

It's a good ploy for those who aren't struggling. Puts more burden on those who are (because they still have to spend every cent) so those who aren't can put some of the tax cuts directly onto their mortgage where they don't pay GST.

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#3208478 20-Mar-2024 11:43

michaelmurfy:

tdgeek: Yeah that's why I stated "he has" from Quicky's post

Now, I thought I read yesterday he said no new taxes, now Ezbee's post says can't rule it out?

Knowing Luxon he'll just raise GST to make up for it. Just shifting the tax instead of cutting it.

Of course, no NEW just up the OLD. Masterstroke!

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#3208627 20-Mar-2024 15:14

While I know it's ruining an awfully fun game of 'making things up to get pissed off about', the comments from the IMF on our woefully inadequate tax system unsurprisingly have not changed much from the last time they remarked on it, nor is any actual reform any more likely.

I wonder how long we're going to play this game here, where we keep insisting sheer exceptionalism is a good enough reason to keep our tax system operating effectively unchanged for the last twenty years, despite the huge erosion in purchasing power and housing affordability during that time.

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#3208638 20-Mar-2024 15:33

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/512115/media-minister-melissa-lee-says-interviews-would-have-been-boring

Interesting, I wouldn't have thought it would have been her call to decide whether an interview would be "boring" or not, surely? Just like Stuff is "a tabloid", right? 🙄

Edit; Bomber was a bit more cutting about it than me: https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2024/03/20/mediawatch-broadcasting-minister-melissa-flee-ducking-media-interviews/

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#3208643 20-Mar-2024 15:40

Wow... Winston is turning into Trump:

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/03/20/in-fiery-interview-winston-peters-says-luxon-misinformed-by-media/

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#3208734 20-Mar-2024 18:30

michaelmurfy:

Wow... Winston is turning into Trump:

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/03/20/in-fiery-interview-winston-peters-says-luxon-misinformed-by-media/

Watching this coalition fall to pieces in real-time would be genuinely hilarious if it wasn't so destructive.

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