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#296185 28-May-2022 14:17
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This subject has taken several threads off topic. Rant here instead!! I'll start..

The Texas governor says 18 year olds can by a rifle for a century and a half. No need to change. He didn't mention if Gatling guns were for sale in those days. On the plus side he's proposed legislation to provide free medical care for the victims. That's nice of him.

Meantime sheriffs have arrested several other school kids with credible plans and means to exercise the 2nd amendment.

Other solutions proposed include arming teachers and fortifying schools. Ironically the swat team had to ask for a key to the classroom. Steel door, they could not enter. Before that, local cops waited outside for 40 minutes waiting for the swat team.

Is this crazy?

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  #2919692 28-May-2022 14:29
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gzt: Meantime sheriffs have arrested several other school kids with credible plans and means to exercise the 2nd amendment.

 

 

They probably had "credible plans and means" to start shooting. Very different from exercising their 2nd amendment rights (which gives the right to own weapons, not to go out killing people).





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  #2919724 28-May-2022 15:54
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The text states "to bear arms" which some people interpret as the right to take firearms anywhere at any time. This is not permitted everywhere in practice.

The text also states "well regulated militia". A bunch of kids buying semiautos on their 18th birthdays definitely are not that.

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  #2919776 28-May-2022 16:42
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I don't get it. Why do redumbplicans want to protect children before they are born, then abandon them afterwards? If Constitutional amendments are such a big deal, Maybe there should be one banning weapons that have been used to massacre toddlers. 

 

 





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  #2919846 28-May-2022 21:52
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Support in Uvalde for background checks and raising the purchase age to 21:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/468062/after-massacre-some-in-gun-friendly-uvalde-favor-tougher-gun-laws

Imo it's unlikely the 18 year old could pass an NZ style police check due to previous interaction with law enforcement.

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  #2920085 29-May-2022 17:50
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Likewise the Buffalo perpetrator would not pass an NZ style police firearms check. The Buffalo perpetrator made a general threat at his high school a few months earlier and was the subject of a police mental health assessment:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/15/us/payton-gendron-buffalo-shooting-suspect-what-we-know/index.html

Clearly not a well regulated militia. If Canada invades USA maybe consider allowing a guy with that recent history to have a gun. Definitely not anytime before then.

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  #2922515 4-Jun-2022 11:04
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Attorney who won US$73mil judgement against Remington for Sandy Hook goes after Daniel Defense for Uvalde:

Newshub: Koskoff told Reuters he was applying what he learned from the Sandy Hook case to his current investigation, focusing on marketing to children and teens and product placements in first-person shooter video games. "The shooter, essentially the day he turned 18, he knew exactly what weapons he was getting," said Koskoff.

Games used to market guns.

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