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#320271 24-Jul-2025 19:49
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In addition to ensuring that prisoners can't elect the Crime Party, late registration and advanced voting will be extremely curtailed under new reforms just announced.

 

 

 

 

Act justice spokesman Todd Stephenson welcomed the reforms, saying it was “outrageous” that someone “completely disengaged and lazy can rock up to the voting booth, get registered there and then, and then vote to tax other people’s money away”.

 

 

 

 

Well I think it's outrageous that someone "who only polled 8% can can rock up to the electoral commission, get registered there and then and upend the Treaty that underpins our whole society." Not to put too fine a point on it, go love yourself Todd.

 

 

 

 

Goldsmith said late enrolments had “placed too much strain on the system”.

 

“The final vote count used to take two weeks, last election it took three,” he said.

 

 

 

 

OMG, three weeks? THREE WEEKS? For an election? Won't somebody think of the children!?

 

 

 

... Anyway, yet another move straight out of the Republican playbook. We all know that people who register to vote on the day ain't voting for Dave.





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  #3396878 24-Jul-2025 19:57
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It's ok though, according to David Seymour, only dropkicks register to vote on the day. Thank goodness, they've saved us all.

 

 

 

 

Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour dismissed concerns that this would unduly limit the ability for New Zealanders to vote, saying it would impact only "drop kicks".

"Frankly, I'm a bit sick of drop kicks that can't get themselves organised to follow the law - registering to vote is a legal requirement - then going along and voting to tax away hard working people's money," Seymour said.

I asked him if it was fair to call those people "drop kicks", given people are busy with work - which pays for the Government's taxes. Is it fair to expect them to keep on top of admin like this?

Seymour said it was.

 





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  #3396890 24-Jul-2025 20:48
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So its Ameican style disenfanchisement.

 

One way to ensure a good voting turnout is to get people into voting.
Make it easy. a good experience and we can get people more engaged.

 

With proportional representation parties may need many weeks, months to negotiate anyway.
Delay in final odd percentage point really makes no difference. 
Parties know substantially where they are to start the process to get started.

 

Key reform we do need is to be like Canada where party donations have more oversight and companies cannot fund parties, let alone overseas ones. 


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  #3396956 25-Jul-2025 09:09
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ezbee:

 

Delay in final odd percentage point really makes no difference. 

 

 

We've had a number of recounts in recent elections. They absolutely will make a difference in a close election. 




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  #3396962 25-Jul-2025 09:27
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ezbee:

 

Delay in final odd percentage point really makes no difference. 

 

 

The Election night result saw National and Act have 61 seats in a 121 seat parliament, technically they could have formed a government by themselves,
https://elections.nz/media-and-news/2023/election-night-results-for-the-2023-general-election/

 

The final result saw them only have 59 seats in a 123 seat parliament, thus requiring a 3rd party for government
https://elections.nz/media-and-news/2023/official-results-for-the-2023-general-election/

 

 

 

The change between the two results was significantly consequential 


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  #3396984 25-Jul-2025 10:24
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In my opinion, providing the opportunity for as many people as possible to vote is far more important than getting the final result a few days more quickly. I mean, if a final result was really that important to Luxon, why did he drag out the negotiations for a whole three weeks? That was critical 'using urgency to repeal everything the other lot did' time wasted.





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