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#312165 22-Mar-2024 21:42
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Signed up to Quic about a month ago after banging my head against a wall with 2degrees over the Vocus IPoE periodically kicking me off the network and not giving me a new lease for minutes at a time and support telling me quite firmly there's nothing they could do and they were unwilling to investigate.

 

 

 

It's been wonderful so far but I've noticed some odd speed issues to peers - mainly AWS and Microsoft, where I'll not be able to consistently hit anything above 300KB/s. I've also noticed issues with speeds from the US mostly, and Quic unfortunately don't answer their facebook chats when I ask.

 

 

 

For SharePoint I get an average speed of ~200KB/s and most times downloads will ramp up to ~1MB/s before falling significantly and often failing. I've also seen slow speeds from national peers too, like UC Mirror getting barely 2MB/s

 

 

 

Routes to UC are:

 

 

 

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                       unifi.localdomain -    0 |   13 |   13 |    1 |    3 |   14 |    1 |
|                     bng1-chc2.vetta.net -    0 |   13 |   13 |    2 |    3 |    5 |    3 |
|         xe1-2600-218.pe2-chc4.vetta.net -    0 |   13 |   13 |    3 |    4 |    9 |    3 |
|                       as38022.chc.ix.nz -    0 |   13 |   13 |    3 |    4 |    7 |    4 |
|                             210.7.37.89 -    0 |   13 |   13 |    3 |    4 |   11 |    5 |
|                             210.7.37.90 -    0 |   13 |   13 |   12 |   20 |   33 |   33 |
|                           202.36.179.65 -    0 |   13 |   13 |    3 |    4 |    8 |    4 |
|                           132.181.3.238 -    0 |   13 |   13 |    9 |   33 |  114 |   27 |
|                          132.181.106.37 -    0 |   13 |   13 |    3 |    4 |    7 |    4 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

 

 

 

Routes to SharePoint for me are:

 

 

 

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                       unifi.localdomain -    0 |   11 |   11 |    1 |    3 |    9 |    3 |
|                     bng1-chc2.vetta.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |    2 |    3 |   10 |   10 |
|         xe1-2600-218.pe2-chc4.vetta.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |    3 |    3 |    5 |    3 |
|                            100.126.0.28 -    0 |   11 |   11 |   18 |   20 |   25 |   18 |
|                        as8075.akl.ix.nz -    0 |   10 |   10 |   18 |   19 |   25 |   18 |
|                           13.104.185.16 -    0 |   10 |   10 |   18 |   18 |   23 |   18 |
|                      Request timed out. -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                           13.107.136.10 -    0 |   10 |   10 |   18 |   19 |   23 |   18 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

 

 

 

Meanwhile for S3 I'm getting this routing:

 

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                       unifi.localdomain -    0 |   10 |   10 |    1 |    8 |   38 |    1 |
|                     bng1-chc2.vetta.net -    0 |   10 |   10 |    2 |    8 |   45 |    3 |
|         xe1-2600-218.pe2-chc4.vetta.net -    0 |   10 |   10 |    3 |    5 |   15 |    3 |
|                            100.126.0.16 -    0 |   10 |   10 |   18 |   25 |   72 |   18 |
|                      Request timed out. -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|            et-0-2-8.atc-p-3.as55850.net -    0 |   10 |   10 |  148 |  165 |  234 |  149 |
|       xe-0-1-5.er1.sjc5.us.zip.zayo.com -    0 |   10 |   10 |  147 |  159 |  204 |  148 |
|           ae15.cs4.sjc4.us.zip.zayo.com -   50 |    4 |    2 |    0 |  148 |  149 |  149 |
|                      Request timed out. -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                             99.83.69.58 -    0 |    9 |    9 |  148 |  156 |  177 |  148 |
|                          150.222.97.239 -    0 |    9 |    9 |  154 |  164 |  194 |  154 |
|                            150.222.97.7 -    0 |    9 |    9 |  157 |  173 |  203 |  157 |
|                      Request timed out. -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                      Request timed out. -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                      Request timed out. -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                      Request timed out. -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                      Request timed out. -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                      Request timed out. -  100 |    2 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                    s3-1-w.amazonaws.com -    0 |    9 |    9 |  209 |  224 |  268 |  209 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

 

 

 

Is anyone else facing similar issues with different regions round the world? 




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  #3209671 22-Mar-2024 22:20
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Try using cloud flaire warp that should speed things up unfortunately no isp has control over international transits I belive..




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  #3209722 23-Mar-2024 01:08
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The University of Canterbury mirror is no-longer a good benchmark. You'll note by the server string it still appears to be on RHEL 6.8 to give you any indication of how old it potentially is. Just seems to not have been maintained and speeds have tanked. To be honest I think it should be removed from service.

 

Remember, Quic is self service also.

 

Anyway, to S3 and many other places it's been fine for me. Even testing to the US is fine.

 

It appears you're on Windows so give this a run and reboot?

 

netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal

 

Also ensure you test from other machines (especially a Linux box).




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  #3209823 23-Mar-2024 11:19
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You'd probably need some examples for people to download to rule out the issue being on your end, albeit unlikely.



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  #3209824 23-Mar-2024 11:25
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dfnt:

 

You'd probably need some examples for people to download to rule out the issue being on your end, albeit unlikely.

 

 

 

 

Fair.

 

For UC: https://ucmirror.canterbury.ac.nz/linux/ubuntu-releases/23.10/ubuntu-23.10-live-server-amd64.iso

 

For S3: https://github-enterprise.s3.amazonaws.com/hyperv/releases/github-enterprise-3.12.1.vhd

 

I can't provide links to SharePoint unfortunately, but those are a couple of files that I struggle downloading. 




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  #3209829 23-Mar-2024 12:03
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As above. UCMirror is seriously not a great benchmark and these days is a slow mirror just due to how it’s set up. I could go into technicals but it’s not mine to post. It’s likely to be removed as a mirror soon because of these issues. 

 

You have a point on the Github one though. I'll raise this with somebody there. My works Sharepoint seems to be totally fine.




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  #3209832 23-Mar-2024 12:08
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michaelmurfy:

 

As above. UCMirror is seriously not a great benchmark and these days is a slow mirror just due to how it’s set up. I could go into technicals but it’s not mine to post. It’s likely to be removed as a mirror soon because of these issues. 

 

You have a point on the Github one though. I'll raise this with somebody there. My works Sharepoint seems to be totally fine.

 

 

Also fair. The GitHub S3 issues also leans further towards affecting GitHub as a whole (git clone/pull/push), as well as GHCR and releases. 




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  #3209884 23-Mar-2024 14:52
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On voyager, UC seems to be lard limited at 7MB/s and the other one is slower at about 3.5MB/s

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  #3209885 23-Mar-2024 14:54
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Jase2985:

 

On voyager, UC seems to be lard limited at 7MB/s and the other one is slower at about 3.5MB/s

 

I don't think it is hard limited. I suspect what happened is the original server hosting it failed (it was already old hardware when it was implemented) and from what I've been told it's now sitting as a VM after a PTV migration with NFS storage to a NAS for the ISO's so is limited in multiple places.

 

Original server was only Gigabit anyway and in this day and age that's basically the bare minimum for a mirror.




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  #3209886 23-Mar-2024 15:01
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As another data point, on Spark:

 

UC: 17MB/s

 

S3: 14MB/s

 

 

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dfnt:

 

As another data point, on Spark:

 

UC: 17MB/s

 

S3: 14MB/s

 

 

 

 

Yep, these are both working normally for me on Devoli. No issues with the UC mirror.

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  #3209948 23-Mar-2024 19:42
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So I have two connections that I tested one Vocus and the other Feenix coms

 

Vocus was 7.5MB/s on UC 

 

Vocus was between 1 - 2 MB/s on S3 would jump around crazy down to 300kb/s 

 

 

 

Feenix was 7.9MB/s on UC

 

Feenix was 21 MB/s on S3 

 

both vocus and feenix routing for UC goes into akl.ix very much like you are. I suspect the spark one will not,  be good to see.

 

 

 
 
 
 

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  #3209954 23-Mar-2024 20:17
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Mikek:

 

both vocus and feenix routing for UC goes into akl.ix very much like you are. I suspect the spark one will not,  be good to see.

 

traceroute to ucmirror.canterbury.ac.nz (132.181.106.37), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  router.lan (192.168.1.1)  0.170 ms  0.105 ms  0.091 ms
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  219-88-103-253.ipnets.xtra.co.nz (219.88.103.253)  1.356 ms  1.323 ms  1.314 ms
 5  210.7.37.89 (210.7.37.89)  6.758 ms  6.724 ms  6.693 ms
 6  210.7.37.90 (210.7.37.90)  17.681 ms  24.681 ms  24.622 ms
 7  202.36.179.65 (202.36.179.65)  6.602 ms  6.526 ms  6.492 ms
 8  132.181.3.238 (132.181.3.238)  12.738 ms  9.917 ms  17.790 ms
 9  132.181.106.37 (132.181.106.37)  6.997 ms  6.897 ms  6.837 ms

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