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#1535009 18-Apr-2016 14:45

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Borderline couldn't watch the news for my dad. Better now it's in a corner, but not great at all.

Also the TVs have no stereo red/white RCA line outs, only digital coax, which rules out a lot of sound bars.

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#1535025 18-Apr-2016 15:17

What sound bars were you looking at? My cheapo Philips has RCA and optical inputs.

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#1535079 18-Apr-2016 16:01

tchart:

What sound bars were you looking at? My cheapo Philips has RCA and optical inputs.

Which rules it out. I'm pretty sure the Veon only has Coax digital out (not Optical). It would require a converter to make it optical. You'd need a soundbar with HDMI in/out and ARC on the Veon (which it has).

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#1535092 18-Apr-2016 16:25

Cheap D to A converters or optcial to or from coax converters are about $10 off ebay/aliexpress and even not too bad on trademe. USB powered so go on and off with the tv if you plug in there.

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#1535145 18-Apr-2016 18:35

Yes tried the veon sound bar.

Was fine as far as restoring the tv speaker sound you used to get, before they stopped including them in the TV set itself.

Returned it though as the included remote used the same frequencies as the dtvs Freeview sat box.
So changing down a channel changed the sound at input from TV to radio.
End result was a pile of shi

My take on all of this:

IF you are using the veon as a display device only, in conjunction with a receiver and surround speakers etc, then it will be fine for the money. As a monitor only it's not bad.

There are no discrete input IR commands and the onboard sound is rubbish. In my parents case we are looking at selling it all and moving to a name brand TV. The integration problems are not worth the hassle, in my case especially where I'm trying to simplify the whole thing right right down.

The challenge for me now is to find a cheap TV for satellite use with decent onboard sound. Actually my existing Panasonic 50" plasma may fit that bill... Space wise I think it needs to be 46" or smaller though, probably 42" if it has a fat surround bezel.

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#1535333 19-Apr-2016 09:00

tchart:

macuser:

I just ordered a Veon 55 SRO9112, I'm going to wait for it to be delivered and return it if it's not great. They have the 55 4K Veon for $799 which is a great deal for a 4K TV, but I'm sure it will be missing everything that would make it worth buying.

I saw this $799 4K TV on the weekend. It was playing "The Good Dinosaur". I was pretty impressed with the picture.

Animations always look good that's why they mainly show them in the shops..

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#1535352 19-Apr-2016 09:40

sbiddle:

Except Samsung's HDR is a scam if you're to believe the other vendors. They may meet the requirements to have their sets labeled HDR they have the dynamic range, but a lot of it is at the bright end of the scale with the contrast right up which means their blacks are still pretty poor.

OLED really is the only replacement for Plasma. Most current TV's pale in comparison to an old VT Panasonic.

Howabout Pana's new DX900? Meant to be a screamer. I read it's HDR or something like that whatever that means (in terms of what gear I need to optimize the final picture)

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#1535366 19-Apr-2016 09:45

old3eyes:

Animations always look good that's why they mainly show them in the shops..

Normally I would agree but CGI in "The Good Dinosaur" is so good its almost life like (especially the scenery). I think its pretty good reference material.

http://www.wired.com/2015/11/pixar-sharon-calahan/

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#1713647 1-Feb-2017 07:54

Veon 65 Inch 4K TV is $995 at The Warehouse right now

Does anyone know if these are decent?

All comments are my own opinion, and not that of my employer unless explicitly stated.

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#1713703 1-Feb-2017 09:26

No one has had the balls to try. If you do, PLEASE review it lol!

Big one for me is, are there discrete input IR commands for these yet?

Veon is not supported on the harmony remote database (or wasn't a year ago when I last looked).

Without the ability to command the TV to switch to hdmi2 etc, the harmony remotes always struggle.

Watch for viewing angles too. There's still a huge variance in these within modern TV's, and this can be an issue depending on your room layout.

Also, do these have an hdmi 2 input?

It sounds silly, but if they don't then you can't feed any 4K content into them, which would kinda suck, especially given they aren't smart TV's, so you can't even watch 4K youtube/Netflix etc on the TV without it being externally fed in.

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#1713732 1-Feb-2017 10:04

Jaxson:

No one has had the balls to try. If you do, PLEASE review it lol!

Big one for me is, are there discrete input IR commands for these yet?

Veon is not supported on the harmony remote database (or wasn't a year ago when I last looked).

Without the ability to command the TV to switch to hdmi2 etc, the harmony remotes always struggle.

Watch for viewing angles too. There's still a huge variance in these within modern TV's, and this can be an issue depending on your room layout.

Also, do these have an hdmi 2 input?

It sounds silly, but if they don't then you can't feed any 4K content into them, which would kinda suck, especially given they aren't smart TV's, so you can't even watch 4K youtube/Netflix etc on the TV without it being externally fed in.

Yep, I'm not even sure if they support HDR (probably not) which kind of defeats the purpose anyway

All comments are my own opinion, and not that of my employer unless explicitly stated.

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#1713736 1-Feb-2017 10:06

Found this information:

https://www.cheapies.nz/node/5396

Stumpedify on 13/02/2016 - 17:20

As somebody who has purchased this TV I can confirm your information is partially incorrect. It has 4 HDMI ports. 3 of them are 1.3 and upscales content to 4k30hz. The 4th port is 2.0 and capable to displaying true 4k60hz. It would be that 4th port you plug your new HDMI 2.0 device into.

The picture is actually pretty good, especially considering I got it for $799. 55" 4k TVs from big brands cost over twice that price.

If you want to point out a negative for this TV it would be all the missing bells and whistles. No smart features. No internet. No freeview plus. No 100hz motion processing nonsense - which theoretically isn't actually possible by current HDMI standards as far as I am aware so big brands advertising 100hz+ 4k TVs is just marketing BS.

The reason to buy this TV would be if you had absolutely no use for smart features and just wanted a 4k display without having to pay for any of those bells and whistles you had absolutely no intention of using in the first place.

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#1713849 1-Feb-2017 11:50

Dunnersfella:

If you go for a larger Veon, avoid anything with UHD resolution, the up-scalers aren't up to the quality of the higher end TV's, meaning regular Freeview viewing will be poor.

Sound quality doesn't sell TV's, so they've certainly skimped. To make matters worse, I've never seen a Veon TV with an optical port, only a coax, so finding a soundbar that's compatible out of the box is a bit of a pain.

If you look in the manual it has optical out, as well has RCA out and headphone. Not one of my brand name TV purchases in the last 10 years have had a headphone jack which I find super annoying.

We have several smaller Veons (1 x 19 and 2 x 32) pretty happy with all of them really.

PS Whats up with the stands? I'm very tempted to get the 65 UHD one but the stand/legs stick out beyond my TV cabinet (I measured both of ours). The JVC's on the other hand are offset from the edge - but I'd stay clear of the JVC's.

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#1713869 1-Feb-2017 12:31

tchart:

I'd stay clear of the JVC's.

As would I, and the Konkas and other such house brands. Veon would be the only house brand I'd consider, but then again only if they provided some damn discrete IR input codes!

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#1713874 1-Feb-2017 12:35

lokhor:

Yep, I'm not even sure if they support HDR (probably not) which kind of defeats the purpose anyway

Not necessarily, in that 4K is still 4K even if it's not HDR capable. They are two different things.

On the flipside though, I've read a lot of conflicting info in which a lot of the lower priced HDR capable TV's can't physically display a wide enough range of level to really be able to show an effective HDR image, even if they can technically decode and make sense of the HDR content.

It's all a bit early days for any of this to have filtered down to the cut price models really.

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