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#1700729 10-Jan-2017 09:28

dafman:

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What about 3D TV? Is that dead as a Dodo now?

3D in death throws.

Curved screens next in line.

IMHO the reason 3D didn't work for TVs is immersion. At the cinema, the screen is so large it takes up most of your field of vision, so it's much easier to be 'immersed' in the 3D picture. With a TV, even a fairly big 65" model, it still only fills a narrow part of your field of vision* and the effect is largely lost.

(* At normal viewing distances. If you want to sit 1m from the screen go right ahead!)

3D at home with a projector would be more viable because you'll fill a larger part of your field of vision without sitting too close to the screen. Projectors are still a fairly small part of the market though and I can't imagine anyone upgrading to one just to have more immersive 3D.

...And yeah, curved screens can't die soon enough as far as I'm concerned!

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#1700730 10-Jan-2017 09:31

Not that I ever owned one, but at least 3D TVs actually produced a noticeable affect, whether you liked what you saw or not.

Curved screens are a complete marketing gimmick, they add nothing to the viewing experience.

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#1700739 10-Jan-2017 10:06

DarthKermit:

What about 3D TV? Is that dead as a Dodo now?

Was it ever alive?

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#1700742 10-Jan-2017 10:09

DarthKermit:

Not that I ever owned one, but at least 3D TVs actually produced a noticeable affect, whether you liked what you saw or not.

Curved screens are a complete marketing gimmick, they add nothing to the viewing experience.

To be fair, I haven't had another look recently, but with the exception of OLED, the viewing angles seemed to be fine, as long as there was only one viewer, sitting directly in front of the TV. Maybe they work for PC gaming, or a specific gaming chair for consoles, but for most living room applications I'm not sure they suit my tastes.

Never used the 3D feature so I can't comment on how I find it.

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#1700746 10-Jan-2017 10:20

blakamin:

DarthKermit: What about 3D TV? Is that dead as a Dodo now?

Pretty much... I know I got the last 4K Sony mid-range 3D TV with the x8500C. I *think* some of the top-end might still do it though.

The content never really became available to any great degree. I have a 3D tv but only used the feature a few times when I first brought it. I wasn't at all impressed with the colour reduction and it gave the missus a headache.

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#1701081 10-Jan-2017 18:30

They shot themselves on the foot with flicker glasses 3d making everyone think that it would be that awful on everything. Passive glasses got the same bad rep because of the horrible flicker glasses. Ask anyone about it. They tried a friend's one and it was horrible and there is no point.

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#1701085 10-Jan-2017 18:42

I've had both types of 3D... A passive LG and our Sony 4k active.

My kids love it, but it never really worked for me.

The Sony works slightly better for me, but I can't have the flouro in the kitchen on at the same time because of flicker in the corner of my eye.

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#1701808 12-Jan-2017 08:52

blakamin:

I've had both types of 3D... A passive LG and our Sony 4k active.

My kids love it, but it never really worked for me.

The Sony works slightly better for me, but I can't have the flouro in the kitchen on at the same time because of flicker in the corner of my eye.

I have active 3D on my DLP projector, 3D is really awesome on it, as another poster said, I think it's the big viewing area that helps.

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#1704229 16-Jan-2017 16:06

I didn't see one Projector promoted in any of the material. Was hoping that 2017 would bring 4K HDR Projectors under 10K NZD!

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#1704295 16-Jan-2017 17:09

From Rapallo blog today

http://www.rapalloav.co.nz/blog/What-will-2017-bring/

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JVC anounced updates to the three current models offering some improvements—including a 100-lumen bump in peak light output—over what are already some of the best consumer projectors available today. The projectors should be available in the not too distant future at a similar price point as the current ones.

Optoma introduced its UHD60 4K HDR projector, a lamp-based model utilizing the new 4K/UHD pixel-shifting DMD chip from Texas Instruments.

Also, the Optoma UST prototype ultra short-throw projector was demoed. Optoma not only claims that their ultra-short-throw pushes the limits of what has been done in the past throw-distance-wise, it also offers 4K/UHD resolution with a laser-phosphor hybrid light engine and HDR capability. Music to our ears.

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#1704482 17-Jan-2017 09:08

Cheers. I got the same email but hadn't read it yet.

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#1704497 17-Jan-2017 09:20

mentalinc:

From Rapallo blog today

http://www.rapalloav.co.nz/blog/What-will-2017-bring/

Home theatre projectors

JVC anounced updates to the three current models offering some improvements—including a 100-lumen bump in peak light output—over what are already some of the best consumer projectors available today. The projectors should be available in the not too distant future at a similar price point as the current ones.

Optoma introduced its UHD60 4K HDR projector, a lamp-based model utilizing the new 4K/UHD pixel-shifting DMD chip from Texas Instruments.

Also, the Optoma UST prototype ultra short-throw projector was demoed. Optoma not only claims that their ultra-short-throw pushes the limits of what has been done in the past throw-distance-wise, it also offers 4K/UHD resolution with a laser-phosphor hybrid light engine and HDR capability. Music to our ears.

That Pixel Shifting 4K Texas instruments chip isn't actually 4K (with approx 8 mega pixels) the chip is only 4 mega pixels (not sure of actual resolution) and uses "pixel shifting" to simulate 4K.

So unfortunately that's no genuine 4K DLP Chip :( - maybe in 1 or two years we will get a cheap optima or benq.

UPDATE: Looks like that TI chip has a resolution of 2716×1528

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#1704498 17-Jan-2017 09:22

Yeah I see a lot of "enhanced 4K" being thrown around. I have no interest unless it's native 4K.

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#1704522 17-Jan-2017 09:42

networkn:

Yeah I see a lot of "enhanced 4K" being thrown around. I have no interest unless it's native 4K.

4K at a price point of approx $2-4000 I would be in for, I'd hope to eventually replace my BenQ W2000 with a 4K/HDR version. I'm sure it will come, at the moment a 9-11GB Blu-Ray rip still looks great. Once I can get my hands on lots of 4K sources it will be time to move.

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#1705870 19-Jan-2017 15:33

DarthKermit:

What about 3D TV? Is that dead as a Dodo now?

LG and Sony, the last 3D holdouts have dropped support for 2017 models so 'Dead' looks pretty much the case according to this:

https://www.cnet.com/news/shambling-corpse-of-3d-tv-finally-falls-down-dead/

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