The Yamaha Aventage series certainly don't have the value proposition of the Yamaha RXV range... The extra foot / different chassis really won't sound any different (unless you do believe the marketing hype that is). Denon's AVR3313 is pretty well spec'd, but the Yamaha will offer a more 'natural' sound, compare to the sometimes heavy handed approach of the Denon.
The debate over 'amp or speaker' is one that cannot be answered, so as per usual, it's a case of listening to your gear with the different options on the market, then making up your mind. Specs tell you part of the story, but your ears will complete it.
Definitely speaker! Amp generates electricity ... All decent amps generate (nearly) the same electricity ... Speakers are all so different at converting the electricitybinto noise it's not even close ... But if your ears don't care then it doesnt matter ...
Onkyo is not my cup of tea, tried once and too heavy bass. so far i found Yamaha sounds more like what i want it to be. i haven't head Denon yet, may give it a go. from my research, AMP does matter, but joker97 may be right, speaker affect the most of your listening experiences.
but Dunnersfella, what's the reason Aventage series certainly don't have the value proposition over RXV? have you compare it side by side? sound the same? i didn't, so would be good too know.
The differences aren't so much in the power, more in the chassis construction of the receiver. And as I believe it makes a much smaller difference than the amps ability to deliver power... the actual price premium represented in specialist stores is somewhat over blown. There is a greater manufacturers warranty on the Aventage receivers though - if that should matter.
Compare the RXV3073 and RX-A3020 for instance - and you won't find much between the two... but one can be negotiated for a lot better price than the other... and not surprisingly, big box stores are more likely to do a cheap price for cash / offer ridiculously long finance terms. However, I need to say once again, you should always listen to the two side-by-side if you can, that's where it really matters. For me, the Yamaha's get a little bright at their limit when partnered with forward sounding speakers, whereas the top end Denon's do not, nor the LX series from Pioneer. However, the OP likes control in the mids / tops, so the Yamaha's may well suit? It's a personal thing.
We got the Denon AVR1713 recently and have been quite pleased with it, We're using it in a 2 channel setup mainly for music via Airplay and it works a treat as a great price. The only gripe I have is HDMI flicker sometimes via the PS3 but haven't looked into the cause of it yet
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