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#115563 30-Mar-2013 09:47
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currently i am considering an AV receivers, thinking of Yamaha 1020, 2020 or may be Denon.
my priority is high and mid range, heavy bass is not my pick.
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  #789559 30-Mar-2013 11:33
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What do you want it to do? What speakers are you running with it? How big is your room and how much do you need to rely on good acoustic correction?

I'd personally take a Denon with Audyssey XT32 over the overpriced Aventages. Or Onkyo/Integra.

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  #789730 30-Mar-2013 20:18
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The Yamaha Aventage series certainly don't have the value proposition of the Yamaha RXV range...
The extra foot / different chassis really won't sound any different (unless you do believe the marketing hype that is). Denon's AVR3313 is pretty well spec'd, but the Yamaha will offer a more 'natural' sound, compare to the sometimes heavy handed approach of the Denon.

 
 
 
 


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  #789731 30-Mar-2013 20:21
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err, just realised my post reads like I'd take the Denon over the Onkyo/Integra aswell as the Aventage. Not so.
I own an Integra DTR50.4 and its the shizz.

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  #789737 30-Mar-2013 20:52
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The main sound signature will come from your speakers. Go for price and features (how many hdmi, upscaling, ETC) ... Nothing wrong with yamaha or denon.




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  #789738 30-Mar-2013 20:53
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Although i once had a low end yamaha returned it for mid end denon. I found with the same speakers yamaha much brighter whereas denon more mellow.

I cannot explain scientifically why, only my ears and my brain's perception.




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  #789761 30-Mar-2013 21:23
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The debate over 'amp or speaker' is one that cannot be answered, so as per usual, it's a case of listening to your gear with the different options on the market, then making up your mind.
Specs tell you part of the story, but your ears will complete it.

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  #789808 31-Mar-2013 00:43
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Definitely speaker! Amp generates electricity ... All decent amps generate (nearly) the same electricity ... Speakers are all so different at converting the electricitybinto noise it's not even close ... But if your ears don't care then it doesnt matter ...




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#789953 31-Mar-2013 16:03
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Onkyo is not my cup of tea, tried once and too heavy bass.
so far i found Yamaha sounds more like what i want it to be.
i haven't head Denon yet, may give it a go.
from my research, AMP does matter, but joker97 may be right, speaker affect the most of your listening experiences.

but Dunnersfella, what's the reason Aventage series certainly don't have the value proposition over RXV?
have you compare it side by side? sound the same? i didn't, so would be good too know.


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  #789973 31-Mar-2013 17:05
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The differences aren't so much in the power, more in the chassis construction of the receiver.
And as I believe it makes a much smaller difference than the amps ability to deliver power... the actual price premium represented in specialist stores is somewhat over blown. There is a greater manufacturers warranty on the Aventage receivers though - if that should matter.

Compare the RXV3073 and RX-A3020 for instance - and you won't find much between the two... but one can be negotiated for a lot better price than the other... and not surprisingly, big box stores are more likely to do a cheap price for cash / offer ridiculously long finance terms.
However, I need to say once again, you should always listen to the two side-by-side if you can, that's where it really matters. For me, the Yamaha's get a little bright at their limit when partnered with forward sounding speakers, whereas the top end Denon's do not, nor the LX series from Pioneer.
However, the OP likes control in the mids / tops, so the Yamaha's may well suit?
It's a personal thing.

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  #789974 31-Mar-2013 17:05
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Haha - actually, I only just Google's the RXV3073 and only one on-line store stocks it, so maybe it's a poor example!!



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#790126 1-Apr-2013 09:18
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oh! thank you for your reply, it's very useful information.
need to spend more time on the research, and book for testing.


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  #790131 1-Apr-2013 09:56
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Dude what's your budget




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  #790243 1-Apr-2013 16:39
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yo, i am thinking around 2-3k.

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  #790249 1-Apr-2013 17:01
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in that case make sure the amp you get has this:

"THD (less than) <0.05% at all (5 or 7) channels driven"

if you want it bright go yamaha, if you want it mellow go denon

as long as THD is less than 0.05% at all channels driven then select the amp based on the features you need in the present and the future.

just to clarify to you: amp is actually useless - it doesnt generate ANY sound. what you hear is 100% speakers - so i suggest get the cheapest amp you can afford and save money for good speakers




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  #790255 1-Apr-2013 17:38
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We got the Denon AVR1713 recently and have been quite pleased with it, We're using it in a 2 channel setup mainly for music via Airplay and it works a treat as a great price. The only gripe I have is HDMI flicker sometimes via the PS3 but haven't looked into the cause of it yet




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