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# 127188 1-Aug-2013 21:25
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A few weeks ago, I wanted to get "Mount Zion" on blu ray, but was told by the staffer in JB that it won't likely ever be available, since it's a smaller NZ movie, and that because there is no blu ray production plant in New Zealand, there can't / won't ever be a blu ray of it.

Is this true? No blu rays of smaller NZ stuff because no way to make 'em here?

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  # 870365 1-Aug-2013 22:21
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dunno about never....boy wasn't huge and is coming out on bluray soon...admittedly it is 3 years since it screened :/

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  # 870373 1-Aug-2013 22:48
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Yup, typically we'll have to wait for ages till one is made available. Possibly never.

 
 
 
 


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  # 870386 1-Aug-2013 23:29
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What would having it on Blu ray add? It could be like some DVDs that are just transfers off VHS tape, a format shift but nothing more.



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  # 870396 1-Aug-2013 23:46
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Bung: What would having it on Blu ray add? It could be like some DVDs that are just transfers off VHS tape, a format shift but nothing more.


It's got quite a good soundtrack (and I'm not a Stan Walker fan as such), so DTS-MA would be nice. And as it was actually filmed, rather than shot on video, having a hi-def transfer rather than upscaling the DVD resolution, would also be nice. Isn't that why we were good consumers and went out and upgraded to blu ray in the first place?

This does not bode well for NZ films and 4k.

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  # 870443 2-Aug-2013 08:35
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driller2000: dunno about never....boy wasn't huge and is coming out on bluray soon...admittedly it is 3 years since it screened :/


For a NZ film it was a pretty big deal, plus it won several international film awards, so it's not a great example.

I've seen BluRay transfers of some very old (e.g. "To Kill a Mockingbird" from 1962) and not so old (Shawshank Redemption from '94) films and the quality has been quite amazing . There's little to no benefit in the audio department over DVD but the visuals are often dramatically better.

The "resolution" on film is pretty high.

That said, the cost of doing a BluRay run is probably not economical for a truly "small" NZ film given the relative demand that there'd be.





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  # 870477 2-Aug-2013 09:18
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As far as I'm aware the production of these goes through Aus, and the cost of doing a run is not justifiable if you're only expecting to sell a hundred or so copies. I haven't looked lately, so perhaps things have changed, but 18 months or so ago you'd probably want to know you could ship at least 5k copies to justify doing so. There are some one-off costs associated with doing so, like many things, so at low quantity the price-per-unit is not reasonable. I doubt anyone would pay $100 for example to buy a copy.

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  # 870501 2-Aug-2013 09:50
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driller2000: dunno about never....boy wasn't huge and is coming out on bluray soon...admittedly it is 3 years since it screened :/


I'm wondering why is "Boy" available via Amazon on Blu-Ray but I haven't seen any sources in NZ?

 
 
 
 


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  # 870508 2-Aug-2013 10:06
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grolschie:

I'm wondering why is "Boy" available via Amazon on Blu-Ray but I haven't seen any sources in NZ?


I believe it was published to Blu-ray by a US distributor, due to it's success at Sundance.

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  # 870517 2-Aug-2013 10:22
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Complaints about film piracy hurting industry here fall on deaf ears if no effort is put into making copies of the work that people actually want to buy...


No one wants to watch a DVD on their 50" plasma TV.

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  # 870526 2-Aug-2013 10:33
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Cheers guys. I've been waiting for the Blu-Ray of this movie and resisted buying the DVD. Hopefully it will be available in NZ soon. The one on Amazon says Region A/1, but Blu-Ray.com says regions "A,B (C untested)". :-/

refs:
http://www.amazon.com/Boy-Blu-ray-Taika-Waititi/dp/B00CBVWX2O/
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Boy-Blu-ray/71877/


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  # 871013 2-Aug-2013 22:35

I managed to get Braindead, the Peter Jackson zombie flick, ("Dead-Alive" actually, the US title), on Bluray this year. That's a pretty obscure NZ movie, so I'm sure pretty much every kiwi film will eventually be on the format.

Back in the 80's I was sure we'd never see older NZ music on CD. I was so wrong. All the titles I had on vinyl have been released on CD.

I think the biggest issue is remastering the originals to deliver higher quality. There must be a job there doing that for a few lucky people!




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  # 871016 2-Aug-2013 22:40
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Hmmm...  both "Boy" and "Dead Alive" a.k.a. "Brain Dead" were released in the US, hence I'm not surprised that they've come to blu ray.

I'm keen to know if any NZ-only releases have been put on Blu. The biggest challenge is not, it seems, remastering - after all, Mount Zion shouldn't need any remastering, just transfer and authoring. Minimal effort over and above making the DVD, really.

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  # 871018 2-Aug-2013 22:43
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How long did it take "goodbye pork pie" to be released on DVD?

"Boy" was big overseas, and anything by Peter Jackson is wanted overseas due to LOTR.


EDIT: And considering Mt Zion made less than $1.5m chances of BluRay are nearly non-existent. Might make it one day tho.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/intl/?page=&country=NZ&wk=2013W7&id=_fMTZION01


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  # 871230 3-Aug-2013 14:54
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I've seen BluRay transfers of some very old (e.g. "To Kill a Mockingbird" from 1962) and not so old (Shawshank Redemption from '94) films and the quality has been quite amazing . There's little to no benefit in the audio department over DVD but the visuals are often dramatically better.





For me the biggest difference in quality between blu-ray and dvd was the soundtrack. DVD sound files are compressed to fit onto the dvd and lose much of the detail and vibrancy. DTS-master and TrueHD are both lossless and uncompressed which means you get a  fuller, more detailed sound. Granted if you have a cheap sony 5.1 HTiB system you got for $150-300 you probably won't notice the difference but if you have a proper component setup with an HDMI receiver that can decode the newer codecs the difference is night and day. I get blu-ray first for sound second for picture, and i'm not afraid to import from overseas to ensure all of my movies have the best possible sound tracks. 

Back to the topic: 'Quiet Earth' was released in Germany with a DTS-Master soundtrack

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  # 871412 3-Aug-2013 21:54
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You are all confuzzed.

DTS HD MA and Dolby TrueHD use lossless compression, they are not uncompressed !

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