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Topic # 150715 31-Jul-2014 15:54
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Looking to buy a 55" TV for a budget of $2,000-$2,300 (have a Panasonic 50" G10 plasma but that is going to another room).
However, the latest Noel Leeming mailer has one of these from LG: 49" Ultra High Definition 3D SMART LED - 49UB850T for $1,999 (but they are not the cheapest in Auckland)

I probably wont buy another TV for a while, so is it worth getting an Ultra HD TV now.
I don'y have a blu-ray player and am thinking of getting rid of SKY (plus I only have the Basic Package).
I do get Netflix and on a VF VDSL 150gb plan.

Also, I want a Smart TV with 4 HDMI

Edit> After all that I posted in the wrong forum. I am sure it will be moved to Home Theatre. Sorry.



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  Reply # 1099434 31-Jul-2014 16:17
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Ultra HD for 2 grand? That doesn't seem right.




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  Reply # 1099437 31-Jul-2014 16:21
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Not sure about UHD, when will content be available, and will the current UHD TVs have the right Codec support?

IMO, Samsung do the best Smart (at present the only ones to have TVNZ and TV3 on demand), and the plex app is pretty nice.

Having said that, that LG TV has some nice specs. $1888 at JB.

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  Reply # 1099487 31-Jul-2014 17:31
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This TV is definitely compelling, an affordable 4k TV with a nice enough panel for under 2k. WebOS is new to TVs though, so not sure how that will be, looks ok in the shops, but until you get it home you won't get a full grasp on the interface. I think this TV can get the 4k Netflix App, from what I recall when researching it.



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  Reply # 1099491 31-Jul-2014 17:43
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Just checked Harvey Norman ($1,883) and they have it down as 'Clearance!'.




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  Reply # 1099518 31-Jul-2014 18:23
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Here's a review
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/49ub850v-201406033786.htm

But something that no one has seem to have brought up is, can it display UHD from HDMI?

As UHD lovers know, UHD uses a lot of bandwidth and so HDMI 1.4 cannot display UHD at 60fps, only display port can which the TV doesn't have.

Apparently though, the TV has one HDMI 2.0 port and three HDMI 1.4 ports, so yes you can display UHD60fps using the HDMI 2.0 port, but the problem is that the device sending the signal (e.g computer, Blu-ray player) will also need to have HDMI 2.0 ports which currently most of them do not have.

So in conclusion, if you're wanting this for UHD content then you'll be stuck with low framerates until you upgrade your other devices.




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  Reply # 1099725 31-Jul-2014 22:25
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I believe this TV claims 100Hz TruMotion... which is effectively a 50Hz TV, with LG claiming it to be equivalent to 'others' 100Hz.
In reality, I've seen it playing the soccer world cup on Sky, and it was abysmal.
The motion was terrible, the picture seemed 'overly smooth' colour-wise (skin tones made it look like everyone had makeup caked on), and the lag in the 'smart' interface was terrible.
I couldn't think of a worse TV, personally.


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  Reply # 1099729 31-Jul-2014 22:27
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Dunnersfella: I believe this TV claims 100Hz TruMotion... which is effectively a 50Hz TV, with LG claiming it to be equivalent to 'others' 100Hz.
In reality, I've seen it playing the soccer world cup on Sky, and it was abysmal.
The motion was terrible, the picture seemed 'overly smooth' colour-wise (skin tones made it look like everyone had makeup caked on), and the lag in the 'smart' interface was terrible.
I couldn't think of a worse TV, personally.



Did you take a look in-store with default settings? Because I know manufacturers are pretty awful with their default settings and a bit of calibration can fix some of the picture issues.




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  Reply # 1099732 31-Jul-2014 22:30
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What do you want from a new TV that your plasma doesn't have?

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  Reply # 1099737 31-Jul-2014 22:56
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charsleysa:
Dunnersfella: I believe this TV claims 100Hz TruMotion... which is effectively a 50Hz TV, with LG claiming it to be equivalent to 'others' 100Hz.
In reality, I've seen it playing the soccer world cup on Sky, and it was abysmal.
The motion was terrible, the picture seemed 'overly smooth' colour-wise (skin tones made it look like everyone had makeup caked on), and the lag in the 'smart' interface was terrible.
I couldn't think of a worse TV, personally.



Did you take a look in-store with default settings? Because I know manufacturers are pretty awful with their default settings and a bit of calibration can fix some of the picture issues.


Playing around with the settings took some work, but the upscaling was poor, at best.
The motion was not suitable for a TV of this value, and the stand meant you couldn't put it on a narrow cabinet.
I guess you can't have your lunch and eat it too...

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  Reply # 1099738 31-Jul-2014 22:58
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Dunnersfella:
charsleysa:
Dunnersfella: I believe this TV claims 100Hz TruMotion... which is effectively a 50Hz TV, with LG claiming it to be equivalent to 'others' 100Hz.
In reality, I've seen it playing the soccer world cup on Sky, and it was abysmal.
The motion was terrible, the picture seemed 'overly smooth' colour-wise (skin tones made it look like everyone had makeup caked on), and the lag in the 'smart' interface was terrible.
I couldn't think of a worse TV, personally.



Did you take a look in-store with default settings? Because I know manufacturers are pretty awful with their default settings and a bit of calibration can fix some of the picture issues.


Playing around with the settings took some work, but the upscaling was poor, at best.
The motion was not suitable for a TV of this value, and the stand meant you couldn't put it on a narrow cabinet.
I guess you can't have your lunch and eat it too...


That's a shame, it could have had potential seeing as it's shipping with HDMI 2.0, UHD and 3D.




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  Reply # 1099741 31-Jul-2014 23:07
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charsleysa: Here's a review
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/49ub850v-201406033786.htm

But something that no one has seem to have brought up is, can it display UHD from HDMI?

As UHD lovers know, UHD uses a lot of bandwidth and so HDMI 1.4 cannot display UHD at 60fps, only display port can which the TV doesn't have.

Apparently though, the TV has one HDMI 2.0 port and three HDMI 1.4 ports, so yes you can display UHD60fps using the HDMI 2.0 port, but the problem is that the device sending the signal (e.g computer, Blu-ray player) will also need to have HDMI 2.0 ports which currently most of them do not have.

So in conclusion, if you're wanting this for UHD content then you'll be stuck with low framerates until you upgrade your other devices.


You can actually run 60fps @ 4K over HDMI 1.4 Ports (as I do from my computer) to my 4K Sony TV.. but there is a catch it is only 4:2:0. (ie it reduces the colour accuracy).

But yes we are all waiting on a source which has HDMI 2.0



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  Reply # 1099788 1-Aug-2014 06:34
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charsleysa: Here's a review
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/49ub850v-201406033786.htm

But something that no one has seem to have brought up is, can it display UHD from HDMI?

As UHD lovers know, UHD uses a lot of bandwidth and so HDMI 1.4 cannot display UHD at 60fps, only display port can which the TV doesn't have.

Apparently though, the TV has one HDMI 2.0 port and three HDMI 1.4 ports, so yes you can display UHD60fps using the HDMI 2.0 port, but the problem is that the device sending the signal (e.g computer, Blu-ray player) will also need to have HDMI 2.0 ports which currently most of them do not have.

So in conclusion, if you're wanting this for UHD content then you'll be stuck with low framerates until you upgrade your other devices.


Thank you for the link. After reading the review I wont be buying one. The Conclusion in the review is pretty damning.





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  Reply # 1099789 1-Aug-2014 06:38
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bfginger: What do you want from a new TV that your plasma doesn't have?


As previously mentioned, I am moving the plasma to another room in order to replace a CRT TV (a good one in its day mind you, a Loewe Planus 32"). Also I can move the Roku 3 to the same room.
The new one will be for a family room, hopefully able to use an app for Netflix.




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  Reply # 1101151 3-Aug-2014 15:34
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Heya - while the price is good on the LG Smart TVs, I would seriously think it through before making a purchase. I have recently purchased a 42 inch LG SmartTV and I'm kicking myself for not doing more research beforehand (it was a sudden windfall impulse buy).

There is terrible support from the manufacturer and no real community. Despite all the promises on the box, I have been unable to connect it to my PC (one of the main reasons I bought it), and there are no NZ specific apps (unlike Samsung which has access to TVNZ on Demand). 

The OS is painfully slow and accessing lots of the functions require far more 'clicks' than it should. 

On the plus side I have no complaints with the picture or sound, and of course the price is good - and was ultimately the lure.

Edit: Duh, just read the last few posts and realised you decided not to buy. Oh well, maybe these comments will help someone else. 

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  Reply # 1101252 3-Aug-2014 19:29
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To be fair, no one has never managed to explain to me what is so good about Web OS.
It multi-tasks... woopdedo.
Next to no apps, painfully difficult to change inputs, USB playback is dodgy... wicked.

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