2017 4K Televisions

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#215556 2-Jul-2017 18:22

Due to a nasty case of IPS panel in my current set, i'm currently putting away a few pennies for a TV upgrade with an eye to buying around black friday or boxing day depending on how the sales go and researching which TV to buy. At the moment i'm eyeing up these sets:

Sony X9000E

Review: http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900e

This has a full array backlight with local dimming (beating out even the pricier X930E which is edge lit), great contrast ratio, and looks to be the price/performance set of 2017 (until you factor in New Zealand pricing). However it won't be updated later this year to include Dolby HDR as that requires a better chipset from what I can tell.

LG C7

Review: http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c7

OLED speaks for itself. To be honest this will probably remain out of my price range but i'm hoping that we get some sales this year that bring our prices closer to Australia's.

Anyone else looking upgrading this year? What sets are you looking at? As far as I can tell Samsung's strategy this year is to give their high end sets a misleading name and ramp up the price and hope people mistake them for better technology so they're right out.

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#1810564 2-Jul-2017 18:28

I like LG's WebOS implementation. It's fast and easy to navigate. I can switch between Plex and Netflix within a few seconds. The HDR quality is very good too. I've just got a 43" in the bedroom but will also be buying a big one (65" +) for the lounge later this year, so I'll watch this thread with interest :)

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#1810574 2-Jul-2017 18:51

I purchased the Panasonic 65" EZ1000 OLED this week. Have to say that once you watch 4K HDR or SDR content on OLED, it's clearly noticeable difference when you watch same content on LED/LCD panel. Dolby Vision is too new and there is no guarantee that it will take off compared to HDR 10 or HLG. I believe 2016 and beyond 4K TV have the hardware where they can get the Dolby Vision upgrade. Sony and OPPO gear released in 2016 and early 2017 got the upgrade recently.

For me personally, I rate OLED being top priority followed by HDR and then 4K. HDR is amazing.

Do whatever you want to do man.

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#1810585 2-Jul-2017 19:41

billgates: I purchased the Panasonic 65" EZ1000 OLED this week. Have to say that once you watch 4K HDR or SDR content on OLED, it's clearly noticeable difference when you watch same content on LED/LCD panel. Dolby Vision is too new and there is no guarantee that it will take off compared to HDR 10 or HLG. I believe 2016 and beyond 4K TV have the hardware where they can get the Dolby Vision upgrade. Sony and OPPO gear released in 2016 and early 2017 got the upgrade recently.

For me personally, I rate OLED being top priority followed by HDR and then 4K. HDR is amazing.

Any reason you went for the EZ1000 rather than the EZ950?

I too have been waiting for the OLED to mature and become affordable. I am glad there are sets from Sony and Panasonic to compete with LG now.

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#1810588 2-Jul-2017 19:50

The EZ1000 has a absolute black filter that absorbs everything and no purple taints are visible which the 950 and other OLED models from other manufacturers suffer from as well. The back panel build quality and the stand it sits on is better. I don't care about the sound bar as I have a really good home audio system. The EZ1000 otherwise is almost similar to 950 in terms of PQ although the EZ1000 still has slight edge specially in calibrated HDR nits by extra 20. I got a great deal on the EZ1000 so that made the decision more obvious.

Panasonic and LG OLED are also really good for gaming as well. LG can do 21ms input lag and Panasonic can do 25ms in both HDR and SDR where as currently the Sony is 40ms SDR and I believe the HDR is even more horrendous.

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#1810666 3-Jul-2017 08:19

billgates: The EZ1000 has a absolute black filter that absorbs everything and no purple taints are visible which the 950 and other OLED models from other manufacturers suffer from as well. The back panel build quality and the stand it sits on is better. I don't care about the sound bar as I have a really good home audio system. The EZ1000 otherwise is almost similar to 950 in terms of PQ although the EZ1000 still has slight edge specially in calibrated HDR nits by extra 20. I got a great deal on the EZ1000 so that made the decision more obvious.

Panasonic and LG OLED are also really good for gaming as well. LG can do 21ms input lag and Panasonic can do 25ms in both HDR and SDR where as currently the Sony is 40ms SDR and I believe the HDR is even more horrendous.

Owning a B6 LG, I can attest to the red/purple thing. If you watch a lot of TV and you use it during the day it's definitely a thing I would shell out for as it can be distracting as you lose all sense of the good inky blacks. Night time viewing however it isn't an issue. I've seen the B6 models here for $4000 now that the 7 series are out so it's getting better price wise.

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#1810671 3-Jul-2017 08:39

Hi Sphyre,

Your comment around "Due to a nasty case of IPS panel in my current set". Would you be able to elaborate on the problems that you have with IPS?

I have got LED IPS Panasonic at the moment and thinking of going OLED in the future when money permits ..etc.

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#1810860 3-Jul-2017 12:59

IPS panels have poor black levels. So instead of showing a dark black, such as during dark scenes in films, the black bars for letterboxing etc, it shows as a shade of grey instead. It's mostly an issue if you watch in a dark room. I use bias lighting to reduce the problem on my current set.

The (main) advantage of OLED is that each pixel is self illuminated, and to display black it simply turns off the light for that pixel. This results in perfect blacks. VA panels are also a lot better than IPS in this regard with a contrast ratio of ~5000:1 compared to around 1000:1 on an IPS display. Higher end sets can also increase contrast by using local dimming and things like that.

Of course, if you're happy with the PQ of your current TV, then it's not worth worrying about whether it's IPS or not : - )

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#1812435 4-Jul-2017 11:32

Bought the C755inch LG OLED on the weekend What a stunner!!!!!!!!!!

Noel Leeming has the sale on till today 60 months interest free!!!

Only reason I got the 55inch was they didn't have the 65instock...couple days till delivery(Typical boy want it now)

Can't say I've seen any colour issue as mentioned by PsycoSmiley

My only issue is getting Netfix sound to my amp(RXA-1060) via arc.I have just downloaded "stuff" to check out tonight

I have sound for TV thru amp and it overplays on Netflix

Obviously missed something simple

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#1812588 4-Jul-2017 14:14

It's not the colour of picture its the reflection off the panel itself. My B6 has a maroon/purple reflection of the physical panel so instead of seeing black you see this purple colour in it's place if there is light shining on to it. It's a minor thing but like a plasma, they don't work well in brightly lit areas due to them reflecting of their glossy surface.

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#1812719 4-Jul-2017 16:48

Goto say there is no redpurple cast on the C7 even with light reflecting on off viewing tv!!

Maybe LG sorted this out with new model?

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#1813192 5-Jul-2017 13:43

NZ pricing is quite different from that of UKs or USs. If you eyes on the top quality TV range, LG C7 certainly is one of the best. But don't forgot the often very quiet mentioned Sony Z9D. For 65in it is at least around 1000 dollars cheaper than C7 if they are on the same discount. While on the US market no ones buys the 65Z9D because it is more expensive than C7. The RRP of Z9D is currently same as the new model 930E.

Let me put it like this, Z9D is the best LCD TV Sony has ever made and probably will most likely be the last true flagship LCD tv of the brand. (For some reason, the review of rtings of Z9D is likely biased)

2017 NZ bes buy tv:

HIEND: LG C7 or Sony Z9D

Middle: Panasonic EX780, especially 58in

Low: not known yet

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#1813208 5-Jul-2017 13:49

billgates: I purchased the Panasonic 65" EZ1000 OLED this week. Have to say that once you watch 4K HDR or SDR content on OLED, it's clearly noticeable difference when you watch same content on LED/LCD panel. Dolby Vision is too new and there is no guarantee that it will take off compared to HDR 10 or HLG. I believe 2016 and beyond 4K TV have the hardware where they can get the Dolby Vision upgrade. Sony and OPPO gear released in 2016 and early 2017 got the upgrade recently.

For me personally, I rate OLED being top priority followed by HDR and then 4K. HDR is amazing.

Have you tried "clear motion" on the video menu?

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#1813215 5-Jul-2017 14:00

Huchiz:

Have you tried "clear motion" on the video menu?

First thing I did was turn OFF Intelligent Frame Creation and turned OFF Clear Motion. Is there something you would like me try and report back on with a specific setting enabled? I setup and changed the TV settings under Professional 1 for Daytime viewing and night time with lights ON. Professional 2 for night and lights off.

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#1813217 5-Jul-2017 14:02

A 32" OLED for the Bedroom with HDR and Android OS is high on my wish list right now.

I was in Harrods a week ago and they had some of the most breaktaking TV's I've seen.

I'd love a Sonos Soundbar for the bach at some stage.

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#1813344 5-Jul-2017 16:29

billgates:

Huchiz:

Have you tried "clear motion" on the video menu?

First thing I did was turn OFF Intelligent Frame Creation and turned OFF Clear Motion. Is there something you would like me try and report back on with a specific setting enabled? I setup and changed the TV settings under Professional 1 for Daytime viewing and night time with lights ON. Professional 2 for night and lights off.

In the shop I found out if you turn on Clear Motion the tv will flicker like hell. It seems like a software error to me because it flickers soooo badly. It was a pana 65EZ1000.

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