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#265442 21-Jan-2020 23:24
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I am after a dumb TV that has a top of the line panel or as close to that as I can get. . I don’t care about smart features or apps or in built wifi or anything at all. I’m going to be connecting it to my Apple TV. 

 

 

 

does such a thing exist?

 

 

 

TIA. 


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  #2403276 21-Jan-2020 23:56
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The closest you'll get is the BFGD's, which are horrifically expensive and gaming focused. You're gonna have to get a TV with smarts, even if you don't use 'em.

 

For reference, https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MONAS76501/ASUS-ROG-Swift-PG65UQ-65-4K-UHD-3840-x-2160-FALD-3





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  #2403277 22-Jan-2020 00:11
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a veon tv from the warehouse? they got them down to $ 289 for for a 40 inch

 

https://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/p/veon-40-inch-full-hd-tv-vn40e202019/R2632836.html#srule=price-ascending&sz=24&start=1 

 

 





 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2403280 22-Jan-2020 00:35
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I have the same criteria as you when I look for TVs, I don't care about the smart part of the TV, just use Apple TV.

 

But as others have pointed out, you are better to just look for a good TV and just ignore the smart-tv part of them.

 

What is your budget?


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  #2403290 22-Jan-2020 07:09
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biggal:

 

a veon tv from the warehouse? they got them down to $ 289 for for a 40 inch

 

https://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/p/veon-40-inch-full-hd-tv-vn40e202019/R2632836.html#srule=price-ascending&sz=24&start=1

 

 

 

 

A Veon is not a "top of the line panel".

 

 


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  #2403292 22-Jan-2020 07:11
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There are very few if any options that meet your criteria, and those that do are probably outside your budget.

 

To get a "top of the line panel" you obviously mean OLED and there are very limited options for pro series "dumb" panels because most signage is still LED because of OLED screen burn issues.

 

 

 

 


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  #2403325 22-Jan-2020 08:27
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As others have said, all the top line TVs (display-wise) are going to be smart. If you are only interested in display/sound then maybe look for the TV OS that is going to be the least intrusive on your use of the AppleTV.
Even to the point of any universal remote capabilities that TV remote may have. I use harmony remotes with my smart TVs so can’t really comment further, but I was surprised that my new Samsung Smart TV remote was able to control my Sky box.

 

Unless you want to hold out for HDMI 2.1 then TVs on runout leading up to the 2020 releases may provide the best bang for buck. Their OSes will be left behind more quickly,but for your usage case that won’t matter. My biggest bugbear is smart features that are promised that never appear (looking at you LG).





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  #2403327 22-Jan-2020 08:40
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Pretty happy with the Veon for the price and quality offered... Just mind you - use a soundbar as the sound is not great at all.





 
 
 
 


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  #2403349 22-Jan-2020 09:03
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Dingbatt:

 

Unless you want to hold out for HDMI 2.1 then TVs on runout leading up to the 2020 releases may provide the best bang for buck. Their OSes will be left behind more quickly,but for your usage case that won’t matter. My biggest bugbear is smart features that are promised that never appear (looking at you LG).

 

 

One of the golden rules of consumer electronics: Base all decisions on actual features available at the time of purchase and not the promise of future updates. 😀

 

PS: You can get HDMI 2.1 today on an LG C9. Based on their CES showings, you'll be waiting for the 2021 models to get the same on a Panasonic or Sony OLED panel.  


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  #2403356 22-Jan-2020 09:12
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Honestly, "smart" features are not a value-add proposition, so they don't really impact your TV price. In fact, I would say the vast majority of consumers would consider them a bare minimum. The manufacturers would probably charge more, since they probably take a little kick-back from all the apps they cram into it.

 

It's simple really. Buy a decent Panasonic, Sony, LG, etc OLED, and don't use the in-built apps. Don't even put it on the internet if you don't want to (although you may want to at least a few times to get firmware updates). Hook up your ATV, Mi, whatever to your HDMI port. Done.


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  #2403360 22-Jan-2020 09:17
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Following...

 

Great Timing for this thread... even i am after a non-smart budget TV, as i will use a chromecast.

 

this weekend my partner saw veon 50 & 55" TV's at warehouse for $600 and is eating my head up.. cannot find any review anywhere for those models..





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  #2403379 22-Jan-2020 09:34
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I still have the pre-Android 'smart' Sony I bought years ago. I bought it for the price/quality aspect, not any smart features, which didn't interest me. I just wanted a good dumb panel to display my other devices. After a couple of years, I thought I might as well take a look at the Sony stuff and I hooked up the Internet to it. Pretty soon after, I disconnected it again. Most of it was utter rubbish, and the few things that weren't, worked better from my Android box. I don't know if this has improved at all since then, but I still can't think of any reason to buy a TV for its smart features. As mentioned above, a Harmony remote is all you really need for that.

 

 





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  #2403384 22-Jan-2020 09:50
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The Apple TV has the odd drawback. One being it doesnt support 4K/HDR via its youtube app. I have a 2017 C7 OLED and the major apps ie Netflix/Amazon Prime/Disney Plus work as well as the Apple TV Apps plus the added benefit as mentioned of 4K/HDR support for youtube. I still tend to use the Apple TV 4K for everything bar Youtube as the swipe remote is a great way to get around within the apps. The LG "X" or 10 series OLEDs are just around the corner so you might be able to pickup a 9 series like the C9 for a price perhaps cheaper than the recent holiday sales which were around $2500 for a 55" and $3500 for the 65". 


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  #2404488 22-Jan-2020 11:53
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Don’t the Sony Android tv’s have a dumb mode that disables the smarts?

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  #2404519 22-Jan-2020 12:21
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ShinyChrome:

 

Buy a decent Panasonic, Sony, LG, etc OLED, and don't use the in-built apps. Don't even put it on the internet if you don't want to (although you may want to at least a few times to get firmware updates).

 

 

don't connect them to the internet and they'll be dumb. and seeing how you want them that way, you may not even need to update firmware.

 

 


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  #2404540 22-Jan-2020 12:57
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I decided to go with a Panasonic tv as it was quick to start up and the "smart" features didn't interfere with starting up and using the xbox or nvidia shield. Simple "on" button and straight to shield or xbox. Also pretty decent 4k quality of course nothing like QLED or OLED.


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