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#28238 23-Nov-2008 20:09
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I/ve been thinking I might buy myself a turntable and spin some vinyl.

I would appreciate any advice on brands/models to look out for.

I am looking at second hand and new but don't really want to spend more than $200 which I know is bottom end of the range.


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  #179712 23-Nov-2008 20:59
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Since most of the modern receivers don't have phono inputs whatever turntable you purchase you will also have to purchase a phono pre-amp. The output from most moving coil cartridges is way too low for the standard line input in a Receiver to handle and besides, the phono input has builtin RIAA equilisation to handle the equalisation most mastering engineers put on a tape before it was cut to vinyl (equalisation put on to handle the limits of vinyl)




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  #179742 23-Nov-2008 22:08
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I have a Pioneer VSX-AX5i. this is from the manual:

PHONO: Use this setting for turntables (without a built-in
equalizer or pre-amplifier).
LINE: Use this setting for all audio components other
than a turntable and for turntables with a built-in phono
equalizer.

I guess this means I could hook a turntable up?

 
 
 
 


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  #179781 24-Nov-2008 06:26
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Can I suggest going over to AudioEnz forums and ask there.. lots and lots of experianced people in turntables.

It does sound like you can hook one up so just a matter of getting the best one for the money.







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  #179783 24-Nov-2008 07:35
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marmel: I have a Pioneer VSX-AX5i. this is from the manual:

PHONO: Use this setting for turntables (without a built-in
equalizer or pre-amplifier).
LINE: Use this setting for all audio components other
than a turntable and for turntables with a built-in phono
equalizer.

I guess this means I could hook a turntable up?


You're fine then. Hook it up to the phono input assuming you purchase a standard turntable that doens't have a preamp in it (used to be standard practice, no idea these days)




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  #179786 24-Nov-2008 07:55
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Nety: Can I suggest going over to AudioEnz forums and ask there.. lots and lots of experianced people in turntables.

It does sound like you can hook one up so just a matter of getting the best one for the money.


Thanks for the advice I will do that later.

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  #179814 24-Nov-2008 10:22
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Depending on what you're after, this might be a good bet.  It's reasonable and a pretty good price probably.  Eastern Hifi wants $799 for it.  I bought my GR2 from them ($1499 from Eastern Hifi), they are basically the outlet version of Eastern Hifi.  There's one on trademe for a buy now of $600, I'm guessing since it's only a few months old that he got it from the same place, in which case $600 is too much to pay him.  Probably paid $500 for it at the most.

If I hadn't been able to get the GR2 so cheap, I probably would've gone for the Project Xpression III.  You can get it, including cartridge for about $800 probably.  I heard Stereo World is having a receivership sale, might be worth checking out.  Otherwise there's always Rega, but you're looking at probably $1000 after buying the cartridge separately.  The GR2 is basically a P2 (but arguably slightly better), the GR1.2 is a P2 equivalent.  I bought the GR2 becomes it comes with a pretty nice upgradeable cartridge (which cost more than I paid for the whole thing!).  It was shop display and the guy did a piss poor job of packing it up, but for the price I couldn't complain.

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  #179823 24-Nov-2008 10:39
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While on the subject of vinyl, anyone here live on the North Shore with a turntable hooked up to their PC for converting vinyl to MP3/WAV ?
Ive got a few records here I'd like to convert but dont have a turntable myself.....
Im sure I could throw a couple dozen beer or something your way for the trouble... Smile




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  #179826 24-Nov-2008 10:45
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xpd: While on the subject of vinyl, anyone here live on the North Shore with a turntable hooked up to their PC for converting vinyl to MP3/WAV ?
Ive got a few records here I'd like to convert but dont have a turntable myself.....
Im sure I could throw a couple dozen beer or something your way for the trouble... Smile

I think the latest JayCar flyer had some devices for doing this...







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  #179830 24-Nov-2008 11:02
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bazzer: Depending on what you're after, this might be a good bet.  It's reasonable and a pretty good price probably.  Eastern Hifi wants $799 for it.  I bought my GR2 from them ($1499 from Eastern Hifi), they are basically the outlet version of Eastern Hifi.  There's one on trademe for a buy now of $600, I'm guessing since it's only a few months old that he got it from the same place, in which case $600 is too much to pay him.  Probably paid $500 for it at the most.


Nice turntables but all way over the $200 price guide that the OP suggested was at their upper end.







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  #179832 24-Nov-2008 11:05
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D'oh, didn't even read that bit!  Sorry, marmel.  Having said that, I'd really recommend the GR1.2 at $350 if you can stretch to that.  At the price you're looking at, second hand might be a lottery...

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  #179835 24-Nov-2008 11:08
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It's all quite religious I think, this view that you need to spend $800-$1000 for a turntable. But I don't want to get into a flame war on that area. I still have a turntable around I purchased in 1984. It works fine but it hardly used of course now. But I do have the ability to transfer vinyl to the computer so for those discs which are not available on CD or I don't want to repurchase, I can transfer across the tracks that interest me.




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  #179839 24-Nov-2008 11:23
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You don't agree that a $1000 turntable sounds better than a DSE cheapie?  Plenty of vintage turntables would still work and sound great, but unless you know a bit about them you might pick up a lemon.  I'd rather go with a reputable new turntable, but for that price you might be pushing it...

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  #180129 25-Nov-2008 07:53
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Eastern Hifi is having a clearance sale.  List here (no prices though).  There's a few turntables on the list, the GR1.2, a Denon and a Systemdek.  Might still be too pricey, but if you're near Mt Welly could be worth a look.

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  #180154 25-Nov-2008 09:57
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bazzer: You don't agree that a $1000 turntable sounds better than a DSE cheapie?  Plenty of vintage turntables would still work and sound great, but unless you know a bit about them you might pick up a lemon.  I'd rather go with a reputable new turntable, but for that price you might be pushing it...


I didn't say that. I have Linn Sondek LP12 turntable that I bought years ago and a Shure V15 cartridge. Good sound for the time but it's just that I can't be bothered with vinyl anymore and only retain those units to transcribe the occasional LP that takes my fancy.

It's probably better than a DSE cheapie but then again for most folks that might do the job.




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  #180157 25-Nov-2008 10:10
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Are you offering to sell marmel your Linn for under $200?  How kind!


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