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# 29310 2-Jan-2009 20:26
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My Toshiba Home Theatre finally kicked the bucket after 6 years of using it.  And lastly we primarily used it as an Amplifier to play sound from Computer, DVD Recorder and Sky.  Every thing is wired to the DVD recorder and we use Optial from DVd recorder to Amplifer/reciever.

So because we already had the speakers from Toshiba SD-42HK we thought our best bet was to just buy a reciever.

Well with New Year sales going on, we went to Harvey Normans and found the Pioneer VSX 517 for $299.  Pretty good price.  Compared to the next model up at $499.  And pinoneer is reputable

We stripped the wires from the toshiba so that we could hook them up.  But we are having a problem with the subwoofer.  We got a adapter connecter thingy from Jay Car, stripped the wire and plugged it into the Subwoofer plug in the bottom.  But upon reading the insturction manul it seems this is for powered subwoofers.

There is also an additional subwoofer plughole at the top  and in the book it says it is from DVD player for 5.1 Channel analog outputs and the top one is for multi channel inputs.

I am just wondering what this means?

Did we wire the connecter/adapter thingy wrong, which is why there is no sound from the Subwoofer?  As we had to cut the wires on the speakers, strip them.  So, maybe we got the negative/postive wired wrong?

Is it because my subwoofer does not have its own power souce?

Is there another output hole thingy we can plug the subwoofer into?

Or do we need to invest in a powered subwoofer? If so, what would be the most cheapest and from where?

As it stands, the current speakers work and are a big upgrade from crappy TV speakers.  But we would like subwoofer for the Boom boom sounds..and get the good effects.

Also, another thing I noticed with the volume, when we make it louder the DB go down, and when we make it quieter the DB go up.  Shouldn't it go the other way?  ie start at 0 for low and then the high db for the loudest sound.

I just find that a bit odd.

I look forward to your advice.

"In the real world as in dreams, nothing is quite what it seems" - The Book of Counted Sorrows

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  # 187086 2-Jan-2009 22:25
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Unfortunately there is no feasible way to run yur sub from your new amp. Even if you ran it as a speaker and used some of the speaker outputs on the amp it wouldn't sound right as the sub channel on your amp is a dedicated sub channel and will tell the sub when to "rattle the windows".

The easiest way is to buy a sub with it's own power source, you should be able to pick up a cheap one on trademe and a big benefit is that it will create a lot more oomph than your previous passive sub.

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  # 187104 2-Jan-2009 23:39
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i got this at JB Hifi in Manukau for $199... b4 Xmas... lol couldnt believe how cheap it was compared to JB Hifi in St Lukes for $328.... lol


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  # 187121 3-Jan-2009 09:40
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Cheers guys thanks for your reply.

I fiddled around with it last night and selected the option in setup with No Amp.  So now it directs the bassy ommphy boom booms to the other speakers for now.

Our next purchase I guess is a Subwoofer.

The other thing I forgot to look at with it is a microphone input, so we can do Karaoke.  But I guesss I will just need to get a really long microphone and run our karaoke off of the computer.

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  # 187122 3-Jan-2009 09:45
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Karaoke would probably work better with a PS3 (Singstar) or Xbox360 (Lips) or one of those vcd based machines that come up on trademe now and then. All could be plugged in quite nicely to your amp.

But I gues that's more money yet again, you need to triple your gadget budget!

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  # 187128 3-Jan-2009 10:19
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I didn't know the xbox 360 had a karaoke thingy.  That is good to know.

Oh we eventually want to get a playstation for singstar and upgrade our Xbox to 360 - and we want to get a

We love gadgets.

But I have a lot of DVD's with karaoke on it.  So having a microphone hooked up, beats singing with a

The computer is wired to the Receiver, so if I get a long microphone cord, or microphone extension (dunno if they exist)...We could still do Karaoke - as my TV is my puters 2nd display.

*quickly adds all gadgets to list of need to buy items* LOL

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  # 187157 3-Jan-2009 13:37
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To answer your last question from the original post, the dB scale is negative on my Pioneer receiver also.
Loudest is 0dB.
It's kind of like how many dB it takes off the total.

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  # 187189 3-Jan-2009 16:17
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Well that is good to know everyone elses is negative DB

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