Wireless microphone for Yamaha receiver

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#302561 2-Dec-2022 10:27

I've tried searching online but haven't been able to fund a definitive answer. I'm hopefully that the oracle's here will know.

I have a Yamaha Rx 2085, and have bought wireless mics (JBL) for partners Xmas present. Im struggling to find out how to use it.

The JBL mic uses a 6.35mm dongle receiver which I need to put in the Yamaha. Via a Google search i've read it can go into a RCA port (adapter needed) or into a preamp (I have one for my record player)

I've recently seen my receiver has XLR ports, so I was wondering if I could use one of them.

Would something like the attached picture work?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6ZcCCUeH2xmxTukq7

If I'm way off the mark please let me know of the easiest / cheapest solution (not keen on wired mic due to toddler)

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#3004610 2-Dec-2022 12:00

If your amp is an RXV2085, then it does not have XLR inputs.

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#3004611 2-Dec-2022 12:05

You don't want to use the preamp for the record player. It should have a RIAA stage, and that will mess with the sound from the microphone.

Can I ask what you want the amplifier and microphone to do? Do you want to mix the microphone with some other sound source? If so, you might want to get a little mixer that you then plug into your receiver.

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#3004622 2-Dec-2022 12:16

Thanks for the replies.

You're right about the XLR connection, thats for the 3085 (the manual is for both models)

She's just wanting to do some karaoke lol. I've seen that a mixer would work but would rather avoid an extra device/cost, hoping something cheap as possible?

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#3004626 2-Dec-2022 12:30

I can't seem to add a picture but would an 6.35mm female to RCA work?

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#3004653 2-Dec-2022 13:46

A 6.3mm to RCA would work, but if it is just one RCA you are just going to have left or right channel.

And you will only have sound from the microphone, nothing else. And in just one channel.

You don't have to buy anything expensive to be able to mix together a couple of sources. Something like this should work.

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#3004658 2-Dec-2022 14:01

jarledb:
A 6.3mm to RCA would work, but if it is just one RCA you are just going to have left or right channel.

And you will only have sound from the microphone, nothing else. And in just one channel.

You don't have to buy anything expensive to be able to mix together a couple of sources. Something like this should work.

Oh yeah of course that's dumb of me sorry.

So by using a mixer we would still get sound from YouTube (using smartvu), and when using the mic ?

Sorry to be a pain, how would the setup go?

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#3004669 2-Dec-2022 14:13

Do you have audio out on the SmartVu? I wasn't able to quickly see if that is available.

You would have to combine the audio output from the source of the music you want and the audio output of the receiver for the microphone.

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#3004673 2-Dec-2022 14:17

jarledb:
Do you have audio out on the SmartVu? I wasn't able to quickly see if that is available.

You would have to combine the audio output from the source of the music you want and the audio output of the receiver for the microphone.

Unfortunately not, it's just an Android dongle with apps etc. It Only has power to it.

Oh dear this isn't looking good for me

Also to note (which I've only just realised might important) is that it would used in conjunction with a projector (I've just watched a couple of videos who have connecteda cable to TV)

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#3004679 2-Dec-2022 14:40

I am sure someone else on Geekzone will be better at answering what you need to get that working.

But something tells me you are looking at using something like an HDMI audio extractor to get the audio from the SmartVu, and then re-combining the audio from the HDMI and from the microphone in a mixer like the one I linked to above.

A possible gotcha here is if the video stream doesn't make it through the HDMI audio extractor because of HDCP (DRM). But I am not sure if those boxes will create a problem with that or not.

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#3004688 2-Dec-2022 14:57

All the audio extractors I have used (this is HDCP 1.4 era stuff) have handled it on the source, and the cheap aliexpress ones don't seem to bother to encrypt the output with it so are another way of stripping HDCP when needed. They have messed up the black levels I think with it doing a bad colourspace conversion when used on a PC and a CCTV DVR with RGB, but when doing component sources there was no problems with the image being affected.

Real karaoke mixers have reverb on them, this is essential to hide awful singing.

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#3005454 4-Dec-2022 07:45

I haven't looked into your amp/recv capabilities, however worth checking you can mix both input channels?

i.e. your audio source and the mic source and be able to control the mic source volume as appropriate?

theres plenty of "cheap" (around $50-80), powered and passive small 2 channel mixers around (look at the rock shop to get an idea). You could then use this to input both mic and audio source then output to the amp/recv.

- you might find one of the el cheapo 2 channel mixers might have an "effect" or whats more commonly known as "reverb".....yall need it. (some people call reverb, 'echo').

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#3005470 4-Dec-2022 10:36

Thanks for the replies.

Would a mixer solve the issue? Do I need to put both sources into the mixer, then into the receiver?
Eg I use a smartvu dongle for YouTube etc so a bit unsure how this would feed into the mixer

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#3005542 4-Dec-2022 13:13

Looks like this might be an easy solution. Comes with microphones.

It's possible that you could add the microphone receiver and use the audio in port on this, but I would check with the manufacturer before concluding.

A regular mixer like the one I linked to initially won't be able to take the HDMI output from the SmartVu and mix it with other signals, but the unit linked to above should be able to.

Easiest would be to use the included microphones and just sell the JBL you have bought.

PS: I don't know if the product I just linked to is any good or not.

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#3005595 4-Dec-2022 14:33

Dont get wireless mics from overseas. There are so many rules about what they can and cant broadcast on that you will end up in a situation that a friend of mine did with some wireless lav mics where they seem to use what is used here for UHF broadcast TV, so totally swamped with buzzing and hissing and stuff when you try to go more than a few meters, and if you find someone who still uses broadcast TV the mic will jam it for about 15m away.

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#3005674 4-Dec-2022 17:52

From what I've seen on that link (and others) it says you need to connect the device to the mixer (laptop, smartvu etc), and then the mixer to the TV.

Unfortunately I don't have a TV near the receiver / smartvu, only a projector at the back of the room.
From what I've read, am struggling to see how this is going to work. I may need to return the mics (unless anyone can think of how it can work?).

Shame on me for scoffing at the JBL party box thing

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