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Topic # 30316 4-Feb-2009 14:28
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Two weeks ago I took delivery of a new TV, the 52” Sony W4500.  The W series sits below the top-of-the-line X series (and kind of below the Z series, which is just a W with 200hz refresh).
 
After several months of looking and debate with my better half, the W4500 was settled on a the best compromise between looking good on the wall and high technology.  Initially I pushed for a plasma, either a Pioneer or a Panasonic, but neither of these passed the looks test, so the Sony it was.
 
The Sony replaced my 32” widescreen Loewe (which is now for sale on Trademe should anyone want it!) which is a fantastic set but getting a bit old, and with the purchase last year of a PS/3 the need for a HDTV arose.
 
First things first, this is a BIG TV!  52 inches is very, very large, especially when coming from ‘only’ 32 inches.  Unpacking was quite easy and the set is not too heavy considering its size; it was easily put into its (temporary) place by two of us.  After plugging in the PS/3, Mysky HDi and the aerial (for Freeview HD), turning on the set revealed a very nice menu system that first asks if the set is in a shop or a home.  After choosing the home option and set then tunes in all the Freeview channels and then all the analogue channels, and it ready to use!
 
However I did fine the picture very bright and it took a few days of tweaking to fix.  One ‘gotcha’ is that the picture settings are per input, so even though Sky looked great I then I had tweak the PS/3 settings.  The set currently sits on my Hi-fi rack but is to be wall mounted once I have finished cabling the multitude of cables that TV's seem to need these days; heck it even has an Ethernet port!

The picture can look fantastic, especially on HD transmissions.  I was watching Sky Movies (Men in Black, classic!) and at certain points it did have that '3D' look.  Blacks are very black, especially after some tweaking.  I cannot compare this to Plasma blacks except for demos I have seen in store, but they blacks are definately NOT a dark grey, they are a definate black.

As for the 'backlight' bleed people have been complaining about, I have only noticed it so far when changing inputs; the set goes black for about a second and in the top right I can see a patch of light, and then only in a dark room.  Personally I am enjoying the TV too much to look for problems!

Sound quality would be the biggest complaint so far but that's only because my Loewe had 4 speakers plus an inbuilt sub-woofer and produced great sound; the Sony is limited to tiny speakers in a very thin shell.  Still, that's what my amp is for!

I have eight sets of cables running to/from the TV: 2 x HDMI, s-video plus audio, optical (for Freeview from the set), Ethernet, composite (yeah I know, but better safe than sorry and I can always change it to be component with use the stereo pair from the s-video connection) plus aerial for Freeview.

I have not spend too much time with Freeview as we have MySky HDi, but TV3 is definately better on Freeview.

More to come!

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  Reply # 194017 4-Feb-2009 15:17
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Nice review!
How much did you pay for it? Where did you buy it? How was the shopping experience?
I see myself buying one in a couple months time and have Sony TVs as the top of my list for LCDs. Unless I get my hands on a nice Kuro from Pioneer. ;)




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  Reply # 194031 4-Feb-2009 15:41
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Well, I have a family member who works for Harvey Norman, so got it for staff price, quite a decent discount and one of the reasons I chose a 52 over the 46 inch, where there is a $3000 difference in retail prices.  Had I paid retail I would have shopped around a LOT more!

And thanks, I will keep adding to the review as I use it more.  This weekend it should go onto the wall mount, I am just waiting for the electrician to come and add power points behind the TV and the hi-fi rack below it.  There was an image somewhere in the Interweb I saw that inspired me to do it this way, but now I cannot find it!

Of course I now need to tackle the cables behind the rack!

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Reply # 194212 5-Feb-2009 10:14
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Bought a 46' W4500 lcd from Bond and Bond just before the Christmas sales last year. Actually, I initially bought a 46' W4600 lcd from Bond and Bond - St Lukes. Two weeks later I was told, W4000 series is no longer in production. I kick up a fuss, when they try to offer me their display model. But at the end, I got a 46' W4500 lcd upgrade with no extra cost. I paid $2689 for my TV set, and I negotiated a 5 years extra warrenty on it for an extra $249. My mates thinks it is a good price for this TV set.
However, I am still waiting for my TV set to be deliver - shipment delay ?! I am currebtly using their loan TV set. Very happy with the pictures quality.



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  Reply # 194849 9-Feb-2009 09:16
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Over the weekend I finally got the TV up on the bracket on the wall and rearranged the lounge, and the end result is brilliant.  I am already used to the size (moving from a 32") and watching movies is fantastic.

The picture quality on these sets can be fantastic, it just takes some tweaking.  There are lots of posts on the AVS forums threads about settings people have used with good results but I have yet to try those.

Definately an improvement over what I had before, and well worth the money.  Glad you like your set too and I hope you get it delivered soon, I have read on UK forums that these sets are hard for stores to keep ins tock as they are selling so well!

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Reply # 194872 9-Feb-2009 11:52

I bought a 46" Z Bravia after Christmas and it's brilliant. What a change for me after a 29" CRT TV.

By the way if you dont know how to tweak the picture properly, my advice is to buy any Pixar DVD (The Incredibles, Cars), they have an extra feature on the disc called THX Optimizer. Just run it and it will help you step by step to set the contrast, brightness and so on.




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  Reply # 194923 9-Feb-2009 16:38
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Can I ask what made you choose the Z series?  As far as I know it's just a W series but with a 200Hz refresh instead of 120hz.  Is there a noticable improvement in the picture?  I had already decided on the W before I heard about the Z series.  And the price was over my budget.

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  Reply # 195082 10-Feb-2009 11:54

timbosan: Can I ask what made you choose the Z series?  As far as I know it's just a W series but with a 200Hz refresh instead of 120hz.  Is there a noticable improvement in the picture?  I had already decided on the W before I heard about the Z series.  And the price was over my budget.


I chose because I watch a lot of sport. I cant tell the difference as I dont have two LCD TVs at home to compare the picture quality. Plus Myer had a very good deal after Christmas. :)

And according to sony.com.au website refresh is not the only difference. The Z has better contrast, more picture modes, better sound. These are small differences, but differences.

An by the way both the Australian and NZ website shows the W4500 as a 100Hz and not 120Hz refresh. Is yours a new model with 120Hz refresh?




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  Reply # 195159 10-Feb-2009 17:29
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pctong: Actually, I initially bought a 46' W4600 lcd .


Is that a typo? do you mean a 46W4000?

I had the opposite experience - I have a 40W4000 which I bought in September and during Xmas I also got a W4500 but returned it. Reason? Can't stand the Motionflow on it - very unnatural IMO. But I'm probably the odd man out but the other thing was the black level - I think its inferior when compared to the W4000 series. Probably just me. Exchanged it for a 46W4000 and paid the difference.





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  Reply # 195310 11-Feb-2009 13:45

Do you know that you can switch off the Motionflow?




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