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Topic # 126971 25-Jul-2013 13:54
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Hi There!

Why is it that manufacturers don't seem to be creating high resolution 14" screens in notebooks? 1600x900 is about it, yet I see 13" notebooks with 1900x1200 and 2560x1440!!!

My ideal notebook would be 1.5KG, 14" 2560x1440, 1GB Dedicated Graphics, i7 Haswell, 8GB Memory and a 256GB SSD.  I'd pay a considerable sum for it. 

Seems like a gap there.

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  Reply # 865892 25-Jul-2013 13:57
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they're coming soon!

checkout the Toshiba Kira as an example (they haven't shipped a Haswell version yet)

http://www.mytoshiba.com.au/products/computers/kira



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  Reply # 865901 25-Jul-2013 14:08
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nathan: they're coming soon!

checkout the Toshiba Kira as an example (they haven't shipped a Haswell version yet)

http://www.mytoshiba.com.au/products/computers/kira


That's a 13" :) 

I have some on order for customers, unbelievable spec, I just want a dedicated graphics and 14" screen and I'd be ecstatic.

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  Reply # 865905 25-Jul-2013 14:10
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some of the OEMs are waiting for the combination of Windows 8.1 with Haswell and the High DPI support in 8.1



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  Reply # 865908 25-Jul-2013 14:15
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nathan: some of the OEMs are waiting for the combination of Windows 8.1 with Haswell and the High DPI support in 8.1


Why? I have had 1900x1200 on my Sony 13.1" for 3.5 Years. Works great. 

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  Reply # 865914 25-Jul-2013 14:31
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Samsung Ativ Book 9 Plus




Do whatever you want to do man.

  



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  Reply # 865917 25-Jul-2013 14:33
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That again is a 13" Notebook. I am asking specifically about 14" Notebooks.

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  Reply # 865925 25-Jul-2013 14:41
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networkn:
nathan: some of the OEMs are waiting for the combination of Windows 8.1 with Haswell and the High DPI support in 8.1


Why? I have had 1900x1200 on my Sony 13.1" for 3.5 Years. Works great. 


why are they waiting?

win8 doesn't support High DPI scaling across multimon, Windows 8.1 does

they need scale to get the high DPI panel price down to a price mass market will pay for

Haswell offers all day on the go battery life



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  Reply # 865932 25-Jul-2013 14:52
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nathan:
networkn:
nathan: some of the OEMs are waiting for the combination of Windows 8.1 with Haswell and the High DPI support in 8.1


Why? I have had 1900x1200 on my Sony 13.1" for 3.5 Years. Works great. 


why are they waiting?

win8 doesn't support High DPI scaling across multimon, Windows 8.1 does

they need scale to get the high DPI panel price down to a price mass market will pay for

Haswell offers all day on the go battery life


I think we are talking at cross purposes. Regardless of what W7/W8/W8.1 supports, high res monitors of all sorts of sizes but especially 13" have existed for years. I don't understand why there isn't 14" equivalents. Is there a manufacturing limitation on putting high numbers of pixels into a 16x9 14" panel or something?

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  Reply # 866030 25-Jul-2013 17:12
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My guess is that at some stage manufacturers settled on 15.whatever inches as the ideal size for a notebook and so all the money and manufacturing volume goes into various 15 inch screens. Apple started the trend of 13 inch which everyone has followed so 13 inch also get the volume of manufacturing to make development of the format worthwhile. 10 inches is another standard screen size below that so we are seeing development in that space as people demand more from tablets.

14 inches is an odd size. Just look at your nearest computer seller and see what percentage of laptops carry a 14 inch screen. Im guessing that of the 30+ models on display, a few fingers less than a handful will have 14 inch screens. No manufacturing volume = no screen development.




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paulmilbank: My guess is that at some stage manufacturers settled on 15.whatever inches as the ideal size for a notebook and so all the money and manufacturing volume goes into various 15 inch screens. Apple started the trend of 13 inch which everyone has followed so 13 inch also get the volume of manufacturing to make development of the format worthwhile. 10 inches is another standard screen size below that so we are seeing development in that space as people demand more from tablets.

14 inches is an odd size. Just look at your nearest computer seller and see what percentage of laptops carry a 14 inch screen. Im guessing that of the 30+ models on display, a few fingers less than a handful will have 14 inch screens. No manufacturing volume = no screen development.


I suppose, however you would think there would be SOME high resolution 14" screens. The fact there are essentially none, speaks to the possibility it's not possible, but then I am no expert, so I thought I'd see if anyone with knowledge of such things had something to contribute. 

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  Reply # 867399 28-Jul-2013 14:54
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Just been having a google and it seems your request is about to be answered.
http://mashable.com/2013/05/23/hp-envy-touchsmart-14/
HP envy with a 3200X1800 display.

More coming from Sharp and Samsung
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/samsung-to-unveil-better-than-retina-3200-x-1800-laptop-display/

Otherwise it looks like 1600X900 is it for now.




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  Reply # 867400 28-Jul-2013 15:17
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paulmilbank: Just been having a google and it seems your request is about to be answered.
http://mashable.com/2013/05/23/hp-envy-touchsmart-14/
HP envy with a 3200X1800 display.

More coming from Sharp and Samsung
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/samsung-to-unveil-better-than-retina-3200-x-1800-laptop-display/

Otherwise it looks like 1600X900 is it for now.


Thanks for this. Pity it looks like consumer only platform stuff. 

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  Reply # 867444 28-Jul-2013 16:50
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windows 7 running on a macbook with retina is insane. you really do need to turn on all the old-man options as everything is tiny.



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  Reply # 867447 28-Jul-2013 16:52
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MadEngineer: windows 7 running on a macbook with retina is insane. you really do need to turn on all the old-man options as everything is tiny.


I like high resolution displays and small text. But 2560x1440 on 13" is smaller than it should be.

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