Has BigPipe started doing some P2P traffic shaping?

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#183963 4-Nov-2015 20:48

I've noticed a download speed degradation on P2P traffic at evening times.
Speedtest still shows the max speed but bittorrent is getting down on about 50%,
Has BigPipe started doing some traffic shaping?

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#1421222 4-Nov-2015 21:41

Last we were told that they don't even have the means to traffic shaping even if they want to.

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#1421224 4-Nov-2015 21:44

i like how everyones first port of call is always traffic shaping.

could congestion upstream somewhere, could be a poorly seeded torrent, could be a number of other things

traffic shaping is probably near the bottom of the list of what i could be

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#1421231 4-Nov-2015 21:58

Download an Ubuntu torrent. Do you get your expected speeds?

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#1421238 4-Nov-2015 22:05

Torrenting is so last year - it's now only as small blip in terms of traffic for the majority of ISP's as most people have moved to legal sources for streaming content.

There doesn't exist any real reason to shape torrent traffic any longer.

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#1421262 4-Nov-2015 22:38

sbiddle: Torrenting is so last year - it's now only as small blip in terms of traffic for the majority of ISP's as most people have moved to legal sources for streaming content.

There doesn't exist any real reason to shape torrent traffic any longer.

But why Vodafone still shape torrent traffic?

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#1421271 4-Nov-2015 22:45

nakedmolerat:
sbiddle: Torrenting is so last year - it's now only as small blip in terms of traffic for the majority of ISP's as most people have moved to legal sources for streaming content.

There doesn't exist any real reason to shape torrent traffic any longer.

But why Vodafone still shape torrent traffic?

might pay just not to even start on the why do vodafone do things... ;)

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#1421275 4-Nov-2015 22:55

no, we haven't started shaping torrent traffic, and have no plans to do so.

As stated above, we do not even have the means to shape the traffic even if we wanted to. And we don't want to.

suggest you check out a few other things first
e.g.
If using wifi, is that congested? Try using over ethernet.
Make sure you are trying the most popular linux isos to ensure they are well seeded.

Drop our team a note through our site and we can help out. Just make sure to let us know what you have already checked so we don't waste your time suggesting the obvious stuff.

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#1421312 5-Nov-2015 06:19

nakedmolerat:
sbiddle: Torrenting is so last year - it's now only as small blip in terms of traffic for the majority of ISP's as most people have moved to legal sources for streaming content.

There doesn't exist any real reason to shape torrent traffic any longer.

But why Vodafone still shape torrent traffic?

Probably because they've always done so?

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#1421374 5-Nov-2015 08:35

sbiddle: Torrenting is so last year - it's now only as small blip in terms of traffic for the majority of ISP's as most people have moved to legal sources for streaming content.

There doesn't exist any real reason to shape torrent traffic any longer.

There is a number of useful services based on the bit torrent technology. Personally, I'm using it for P2P TV. Why I use it? Because it's the only way I can get HD TV from overseas in a good quality. I've tested about 5 different providers and P2P is the only way to get your TV in about max speed. The regular IPTV speed from US for me is about 8-9MB/s, Germany - about 6-8 MB/s while the speed from P2P is 20MB/s most of the time (which is about the max speed of my VDSL line).

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#1421675 5-Nov-2015 13:31

spoonboy:
sbiddle: Torrenting is so last year - it's now only as small blip in terms of traffic for the majority of ISP's as most people have moved to legal sources for streaming content.

There doesn't exist any real reason to shape torrent traffic any longer.

There is a number of useful services based on the bit torrent technology. Personally, I'm using it for P2P TV. Why I use it? Because it's the only way I can get HD TV from overseas in a good quality. I've tested about 5 different providers and P2P is the only way to get your TV in about max speed. The regular IPTV speed from US for me is about 8-9MB/s, Germany - about 6-8 MB/s while the speed from P2P is 20MB/s most of the time (which is about the max speed of my VDSL line).

I call BS. 20MB/s is way more than any VDSL line can do considering a 100mbit connection tops out at about 12.5MB/s.

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#1421742 5-Nov-2015 15:49

im guessing they confused MB/s with Mb/s or mbps

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#1421866 5-Nov-2015 18:14

Brumfondl:

I call BS. 20MB/s is way more than any VDSL line can do considering a 100mbit connection tops out at about 12.5MB/s.

Yes, it's 20Mb/s not MB, of course.

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#1433416 23-Nov-2015 17:13

Well, there is something changed for me lately and I'm adamant it's not my setup. For testing purposed I was change to CGNAT (yuck) then back to Public IP. Since then I have not been able to get more than sustained 9KB/s when I'm used to 1-7MB/s. There are times when it will 'burst' to former speeds (about once or twice a day for less than a minute by my calculations), then the rest is at 9.

It is way too much of a coincidence. Perhaps there has been a network config change with an error that timed the same time. This is around about the last 10-14 days for me.

Other traffic is fine - only P2P is affected.

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#1434032 24-Nov-2015 18:01

Just tested this on a Bigpipe ADSL line. Behind CGNAT, over Wireless:

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#1434083 24-Nov-2015 20:05

That's awesome. I wonder how on earth bitorrent can distinguish between your NAT and someone elses (I've never researched it). I reckon theres something random going on for specific accounts. Maybe I was added to something that I need to be unadded from (that's techno speak) ;)

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