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#233505 18-Apr-2018 18:48
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Spark is launching a new DNS-based protection service called Net Shield.

 

This is available to Spark broadband users and can be managed from their account.

 

As this is DNS-based your network won't be protected if using a third-party DNS (OpenDNS, Google DNS, 1.1.1.1, etc) or a VPN.

 

A free service provide basic protection - websites with harmful content and SafeSearch. A paid option expands this to include blocking sites by categories, scheduling and whitelist access only.





 

 

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  #1998884 18-Apr-2018 19:08
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Once someone is connected to your home WiFi network, the Net Shield rules apply regardless of how they set up their own device

Even if they set the DNS on their device to 8.8.8.8 ..?

Also, I'm assuming that Net Shield retains local caching/CDN goodness?

Edit: can't seem to activate this, either by Spark app (Android), or myspark website. Click on the 'Get Net Shield' link, which just takes me to my 'Broadband details' page, with no obvious option to activate.

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  #1998902 18-Apr-2018 19:19
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It's certainly possible, DNS traffic is trivial to intercept and redirect.

 

Curiously, Google Chrome often sends its own DNS traffic despite how your network is configured.  ([randomcharacters]@yourdomain queries aside ...)

 

 

 

DNSSEC will break all this https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/dns-over-https


 
 
 
 


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  #1998907 18-Apr-2018 19:25
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The bit I quoted above seems to conflict with this bit:
Net Shield does not cover you, if:
Your internet connection accesses the Internet with a non-Spark DNS (like Open DNS)


Hopefully I can figure out how to activate this, so I can confirm



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  #1998910 18-Apr-2018 19:32
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@GregV: The bit I quoted above seems to conflict with this bit:
Net Shield does not cover you, if:
Your internet connection accesses the Internet with a non-Spark DNS (like Open DNS)


Hopefully I can figure out how to activate this, so I can confirm

 

It's a DNS service. You will probably have to use the default Spark DNS servers for this to be effective on your network. If you want one device to use a specific DNS (e.g. for accessing a streaming service available in other region) then you can set the DNS on that device only - which is what I do at home by using 1.1.1.1 on router and setting a specific different DNS service on my Amazon Fire TV box.





 

 

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  #1998912 18-Apr-2018 19:34
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GregV:
Once someone is connected to your home WiFi network, the Net Shield rules apply regardless of how they set up their own device

Even if they set the DNS on their device to 8.8.8.8 ..?

Also, I'm assuming that Net Shield retains local caching/CDN goodness?

Edit: can't seem to activate this, either by Spark app (Android), or myspark website. Click on the 'Get Net Shield' link, which just takes me to my 'Broadband details' page, with no obvious option to activate.

 

 

 

Yes still uses our dns.

 

 

 

I'll have to confirm about 8.8.8.8 but it's my understanding we aren't forcefully dissecting dns. 

 

As to your issues enabled netshield, Are you on the Purple interface or the standard grey one..





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  #1998913 18-Apr-2018 19:35
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(in reply to MF)Yup, I understand that, which is why I was querying their statement of 'this just works no matter how your kids set up their device'.

Also, the Net Shield option does not appear on mobile site. I had to request desktop site to see it.

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  #1998920 18-Apr-2018 19:36
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GregV:  Also, the Net Shield option does not appear on mobile site. I had to request desktop site to see it.

 

Will see about passing that along.

 

 

 

It's my understanding the App does not have functionality for this implemented yet.  





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  #1998921 18-Apr-2018 19:36
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GregV: Yup, I understand that, which is why I was querying their statement of 'this just works no matter how your kids set up their device'.

Also, the Net Shield option does not appear on mobile site. I had to request desktop site to see it.

 

Oh, in this case they seem to intercept all DNS queries, regardless of the server being queried.

 

@hio77 can you confirm?





 

 

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  #1998925 18-Apr-2018 19:41
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freitasm:

 

GregV: Yup, I understand that, which is why I was querying their statement of 'this just works no matter how your kids set up their device'.

Also, the Net Shield option does not appear on mobile site. I had to request desktop site to see it.

 

Oh, in this case they seem to intercept all DNS queries, regardless of the server being queried.

 

@hio77 can you confirm?

 

 

Isn't a project i was directly across so excuse my lack of a highly detailed answer.

 

 

 

The net shield product, is dependent on customers Not changing their DNS; that reads to me as... we don't intercept all.





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  #1998926 18-Apr-2018 19:43
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GregV: 

Purple interface hio

 

 

 

Click return to old interface, see if the option doesn't pop up in the products and services dropdown... i suspect it may be related to the A:B interface..

 

Worked perfectly for me, i couldn't find it without switching though (I work with the old interface currently so the new I'm by no means used to)





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  #1998932 18-Apr-2018 19:50
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Yup, can activate from purple interface once I am on the desktop site, rather than mobile (Chrome on Android).

Thanks for your help @hio77

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  #1998942 18-Apr-2018 20:04
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What is this purple interface people are referring to?


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  #1998946 18-Apr-2018 20:08
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a chrome VPN addon would get around this DNS "filtering" ? modern kids are pretty smart :P






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  #1998953 18-Apr-2018 20:18
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nas:

 

What is this purple interface people are referring to?

 

 

There is a newer purple interface.

 

 

 

Was checking if the issue was there or not, appears not :)





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  #1998959 18-Apr-2018 20:31
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I see :)


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