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spoonboy

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#235924 9-May-2018 19:52

Hi,

I have migrated from Spark 100 UFB plan to BigPipe a few months ago and I would not recommend anyone who's using P2P a lot (like torrents or P2P video) migrating to BigPipe.

While being with Spark I used to have a steady 10 MB/s on pretty much any popular torrents downloads, I'm hardy getting 6 on BigPipe now.

And it's not stable. Once it reaches 6MB, it jumps down to about 4 and then slowly grows back to 6.

I used to have no problem with watching P2P tv via Spark. Now, it's constantly freezing.

The support is only checking if you have a full speed on a speedtest.net to a nearest site and as it shows a speed about 100 Mbps they consider no issue found.

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#2012917 9-May-2018 19:53

Do you have an IP that allows incoming connections on bigpipe or just the CGNAT connection?

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#2012921 9-May-2018 20:01

being behind CGNAT will limit your ability to effectively use P2P services.

The network itself for both spark and bigpipe are near identical.

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#2012925 9-May-2018 20:04

No issues here on 100/20, static IP address.

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#2012941 9-May-2018 20:20

@spoonboy Request a static IP address this will cost you and as above this is not a network fault

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#2012969 9-May-2018 21:18

Just trying a torrent now on big pipe .. currently downloading at 45MB/S .. no issues here

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#2012970 9-May-2018 21:18

They charge a one-off fee of $45 for static IP.

https://www.bigpipe.co.nz/faq/faq-about-our-plans/faq-static-ip/how-much-is-it-for-a-static-ip

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#2013018 9-May-2018 23:13

Can confirm, on Bigpipe with a Static IP and have zero issues torrenting terabytes of totally legal Linux ISO's per month :-P

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#2013050 10-May-2018 03:02

Linux: @spoonboy Request a static IP address this will cost you and as above this is not a network fault

John

I had a dynamic IP on Spark as well but it was working with no issues there

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#2013051 10-May-2018 03:45

dynamic IP and CG Nat are not the same.

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#2013062 10-May-2018 07:23

spoonboy:

Linux: @spoonboy Request a static IP address this will cost you and as above this is not a network fault

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I had a dynamic IP on Spark as well but it was working with no issues there

@spoonboy Did you read the post by hio77? Your Issue is not related to have having a static or dynamic IP

The issue is CGNAT for customers on Bigpipe that don't have a static IP address

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT

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#2013063 10-May-2018 07:27

spoonboy:

Linux: @spoonboy Request a static IP address this will cost you and as above this is not a network fault

John

I had a dynamic IP on Spark as well but it was working with no issues there

Bigpipe doesn't offer dynamic public IP's, they offer CG-NAT or static IP's. 2 minute explanation incoming.

Dynamic Public IP = You get a public internet IP address, it changes every time you connect to the internet.

Static Public IP = You get a public internet IP addressed, it never changes.

CG-NAT (Carrier Grade Network Address Translation) = You don't get a public IP, you're hidden behind one public IP shared with dozens or hundreds of other customers of that ISP.

CG-NAT's design doesn't allow for unsolicited incoming traffic (e.g. inbound web, ftp or P2P traffic), your P2P client get dumped in the "unconnectable" pool, and other clients don't like talking to you (or in many cases are unable to), which results in abysmal speeds for you within that P2P client.

spoonboy

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#2014418 11-May-2018 22:12

Ok, I've got a static IP, but still facing exactly the same issue.

When downloading with torrent the speed slowly grows up to 6.0-6.2MB/s and then jumps down to 5.1-4.5.

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#2014420 11-May-2018 22:15

spoonboy:
Ok, I've got a static IP, but still facing exactly the same issue.

When downloading with torrent the speed slowly grows up to 6.0-6.2MB/s and then jumps down to 5.1-4.5.

What modem are you using?

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#2014432 11-May-2018 22:30

Is this across many torrents or a single torrent?

How many peers in the swarm, how many leechers, where are they located geographically in relation to you? A lot of this can and will affect your speeds you get, right now you're essentially complaining that after resurfacing your driveway, your vague vehicle that has tyres is having issues getting up it.

Try some of the torrents hosted by big outfits, like Linux ISOs or specific game patches, and see how you fare, alternatively grab a legal torrent of a very popular file with a large amount of seeders on your tracker of choice.

Also consider trying an alternative bittorrent client, just in case.

Anything I say is the ramblings of an ill informed, opinionated so-and-so, and not representative of any of my past, present or future employers, and is also probably best disregarded.

spoonboy

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#2014435 11-May-2018 22:40

What modem are you using?

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