The end of Dial-up?

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#236048 15-May-2018 14:10

Hi all,

One of our (slightly distant) neigbours has been told by Spark that they will be unable to continue providing his Dial-Up from 17 May. Are there any other providers that plan to continue with Dial-up? Slingshot and Vodafone are possibilities. Or may be its even got something to do with the decommissioning of the NEAXs or IPNet (just guessing here)?

ADSL/VDSL/fibre/cellular/WISP are not available at his house. There’s a hill blocking satellite. Dial-up is adequate for checking the weather though.

I’m probably asking the wrong demographic, but does anyone have a dial-up provider that they can recommend?

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#2016310 15-May-2018 14:18

The problem here is Dialup goes through the same equipment so the short answer to your question is no. Mind flicking the address to me via a PM? I can check if there are other options.

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#2016328 15-May-2018 14:53

Had to go digging for this one, i haven't looked at dialup in oh so long!

December letters went out confirming the withdrawal of the service.

on may 17th, the service will be decommissioned.

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#2016446 15-May-2018 18:19

I still remember the days when dialup was king, and broadband was just a distant dream, unless you were prepared to spend $1000+ a month.

How times change!

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#2016462 15-May-2018 19:11

Let me know where you're at by PM (preferably down to street address) and I'll point you towards your best bet for a WISP, otherwise I think they're up a certain creek without a paddle.

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#2016469 15-May-2018 19:24

There will be other providers out there that still do dialup.

the 17th is simply dday for it on sparks network

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#2016505 15-May-2018 20:37

Other providers share Sparks infrastructure from memory. From what I recall they're decommissioning the infrastructure ahead of the NEAX decommissioning.

It looks like one satellite service may be able to service them.

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#2016510 15-May-2018 20:52

In a similar vein to point-to-point links, set up a dial in RAS somewhere local who has some other internet connection.

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#2016511 15-May-2018 20:55

Here’s the story as I remember it:

A long long time ago, well before 2001, a number of black monoliths starting appearing. These were called IPNet and were owned by the mighty Telecom. All the dialup ISPs had to use them. Is this where the story ends ? Do the ISPs now have their own black monoliths? Are the monoliths dying?

I’m wondering whether the other ISPs will quickly follow Sparks lead, or will dialup retain a niche market (much like vinyl LPs and cisco routers)?

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#2016513 15-May-2018 21:00

as a side note, @tim0001 thanks for inadvertently putting this on my radar.

Just saved me a decent chunk on planning

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#2016539 15-May-2018 21:41

Dont the old slow eftpos machines also use the same dialup gear or is it different?

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#2016540 15-May-2018 21:44

richms:

Dont the old slow eftpos machines also use the same dialup gear or is it different?

This is simply the pulling of Sparks Dialup product, nothing todo with changes to the neaxs.

i expect eftpos likely dials back to their own network.

i can't really comment on any sort of wholesale product, that's well before my time ;)

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#2016552 15-May-2018 23:30

Aren't Spark and Chorus obliged by the Telecommunications Service Obligations to continue to provide telephone and dial up where no alternative is available?

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#2016588 16-May-2018 01:51

tim0001:

Here’s the story as I remember it:

A long long time ago, well before 2001, a number of black monoliths starting appearing. These were called IPNet and were owned by the mighty Telecom. All the dialup ISPs had to use them. Is this where the story ends ? Do the ISPs now have their own black monoliths? Are the monoliths dying?

I’m wondering whether the other ISPs will quickly follow Sparks lead, or will dialup retain a niche market (much like vinyl LPs and cisco routers)?

Yea 0873 numbers that went through Telecom's IN for monitoring usage/billing. Before that I think you could just dial 086732xxx to get dial up for free couldn't you ?

richms:

Dont the old slow eftpos machines also use the same dialup gear or is it different?

Old ATM Machine connections where frame relay type connnections. X21 or V35 interfaces . There was also something like UWDS connections that worked over copper pairs that where 64k & 128K for connections in shops that went back to a ATM port i think....... So long ago

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#2016607 16-May-2018 07:49

ObidiahSlope:

Aren't Spark and Chorus obliged by the Telecommunications Service Obligations to continue to provide telephone and dial up where no alternative is available?

Clearly not, Otherwise they would continue.
Can't expect a business to run a loss offering a service that a tiny percent of NZ still uses.

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#2016610 16-May-2018 07:56

ObidiahSlope:

Aren't Spark and Chorus obliged by the Telecommunications Service Obligations to continue to provide telephone and dial up where no alternative is available?

It's been many years since I read the TSO landline document but my recollection is that it only requires them to provide a local phone service (using whatever technology they want) within the coverage footprint of the copper network from 2001.

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