Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




3 posts

Wannabe Geek

PrivateBox

# 242265 18-Oct-2018 12:21
Send private message

Good morning,

 

I'm looking for some advice on a simple to use Wifi calling app, or similar.

 

My house runs on Spark naked broadband (copper) and Spark cell phones (Samsung Galaxys), and we do not have landline.

 

The Spark cell phone coverage in the house ranges from OK to miserable depending on where you stand, but the naked (cable vdsl) broadband via the router is strong everywhere.

 

I'm doing more and more work from home and as I spend a lot of time on the phone, I need a good phone line that doesn't become garbled or drop out.

 

Therefore is there anyway I can easily swap my phone from cellular calling to Wifi calling when I'm at home? I've looked at a cell booster, but they're blimmin expensive and I thought I'd explore Wifi calling before I head down this path.

 

Any advice or insights on this is greatly received.

 

 

 

 


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
Mr Snotty
8870 posts

Uber Geek

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2110440 18-Oct-2018 12:27
Send private message

The only provider that does WiFi calling is 2degrees and it is seamless. Spark don't have WiFi calling and don't have any plans to get this either.

 

Basically your options are to switch to 2degrees or look at Vodafone with their Sure Signal option. Personally, I think 2degrees is the more seamless of the two options here.





5385 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2110443 18-Oct-2018 12:33
Send private message
 
 
 
 


'That VDSL Cat'
11018 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Spark
Subscriber

  # 2110444 18-Oct-2018 12:34
One person supports this post
Send private message

michaelmurfy:

 

Spark don't have WiFi calling and don't have any plans to get this either.

 

 

That's a little harsh sounding.

 

 

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/99852218/Wi-fi-calling-review-the-verdict-on-wi-fi-calling

 

is an official comment here regarding wifi calling.

 

 

Is wi-fi calling the future?

 

So far only 2degrees offers wi-fi calling. So, what about their competitors?

 

Reaching out to Vodafone reveals no plans to offer wi-fi calling at this stage.

 

Earlier this year, Spark announced it is in the process of switching from the aging PSTN network to an IP-based Converged Communications Network (CCN).

 

According to their statement, this will lead to a range of options, including voice over wi-fi.

 





#include <std_disclaimer>

 

Any comments made are personal opinion and do not reflect directly on the position my current or past employers may have.


1611 posts

Uber Geek


  # 2110490 18-Oct-2018 13:51
Send private message

How about you sign up for a VoIP account with 2talk, and use the SIP option in Android? See Option 2 here.


2298 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 2110508 18-Oct-2018 14:15
Send private message

I have the same use case (poor cell signal, multiple phones in house, work from home a lot so need good call quality) and switched all the phones to Vodafone to use a Sure Signal. Can't fault it - hasn't missed a beat once setup and works seamlessly with any handset running on a Vodafone SIM


'That VDSL Cat'
11018 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Spark
Subscriber

  # 2110509 18-Oct-2018 14:17
Send private message

nickb800:

 

I have the same use case (poor cell signal, multiple phones in house, work from home a lot so need good call quality) and switched all the phones to Vodafone to use a Sure Signal. Can't fault it - hasn't missed a beat once setup and works seamlessly with any handset running on a Vodafone SIM

 

 

This is the only reason i still have my vodafone sim... Home coverage! It's a pain, but joys of living Rural with all that signal adsorbing green leafy things

 

my data is always on my Spark sim, simply because the network often feels snappier for me.





#include <std_disclaimer>

 

Any comments made are personal opinion and do not reflect directly on the position my current or past employers may have.


1019 posts

Uber Geek


  # 2127902 16-Nov-2018 12:58
One person supports this post
Send private message

Call me old fashioned, but what about a landline?


 
 
 
 


'That VDSL Cat'
11018 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Spark
Subscriber

  # 2128142 16-Nov-2018 19:16
One person supports this post
Send private message

Kiwifruta:

 

Call me old fashioned, but what about a landline?

 

 

It's the amazingly basic diagnostic tool for broadband ofcourse. 

 

 





#include <std_disclaimer>

 

Any comments made are personal opinion and do not reflect directly on the position my current or past employers may have.


ddk

3 posts

Wannabe Geek


  # 2233774 9-May-2019 15:20
Send private message

I looked into both of these as I needed cell coverage where there was none, but internet was available.

 

Some more info on the two options. The Vodafone Sure Signal (known as a Femtocell internationally), works great, but. It provides what appears as a standard cell tower, albeit a short range one. This means your mobile phone will lock onto it (if you have a Vodafone account) and work like any cellular connection for voice or data. Here's the but. Its also available to ANYONE else in range, about 30m. There is NO option to restrict who has access, eg. by IMEI. Even though it goes through your router, you cannot setup any filter as all the router sees is communication with the Sure Signal, not who or what. So if you are in the middle of nowhere, its a fine option. If you are close to a public area as I am, then its a pain that you cannot restrict usage to just yourself. Other people get to use your Sure Signal, and eat up your internet data allowance. Voice calls don't use a whole lot of data, but whos to stop the interloper streaming a movie at your expense?

 

Wifi calling on the other hand allows your mobile to use the wifi connection to make calls. That means you must first have a valid wifi connection with a router.  If its your own router, then of course you only need to set up a password on your wifi (&/or MAC address whitelist) then no one else can access your wifi, and therefore cannot make wifi calls through your internet connection.  As at the moment (May 2019), it appears 2 degrees is the only NZ network that has this available. Also, wifi calling must be enabled on your phone. It may only show up as an option (in phone settings) if the service is available. Phones bought from 2Degrees have this option available. Others seem hit and miss. I bought and tried a 2D sim. On an iPhone 6 I already owned used on Spark, the 2D sim made Wifi Calling option become available and it worked fine. On a Samsung S7, the option did not come available. I tried to get it working by talking to staff in a 2D shop but they had no idea. Same with support rep online.  It was a similar experience with Vodafone over the Sure Signal, though I did manage to get one clued up person over the phone at one point.

 

I've got several mobiles with Spark on a shared account but shifted one important one to Vodafone to allow Sure Signal to work. I'm not convinced of 2Degrees has good enough coverage in my area to shift that one phone to them. So I'm hanging out for Spark to enable Wifi Calling so I can get that phone back on the shared plan. As others have said and linked, it appears Spark are upgrading their network so it will become avilable one day, but no word on when.


28263 posts

Uber Geek

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2233778 9-May-2019 15:30
Send private message

You can request a Sure Signal to be locked down.

 

Ironically that seems to have been the biggest complaint about them in NZ. In the UK when they launched the biggest complaint was that they were locked down.

 

 


8193 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  # 2233945 9-May-2019 19:03
Send private message

michaelmurfy:

The only provider that does WiFi calling is 2degrees and it is seamless. Spark don't have WiFi calling and don't have any plans to get this either.


Basically your options are to switch to 2degrees or look at Vodafone with their Sure Signal option. Personally, I think 2degrees is the more seamless of the two options here.



I'm in a simalar position here in Morrinsville. It's about time Spark admitted that their coverage is not the best and offered something like WiFi calling sure signal type of option.




Regards,

Old3eyes


ddk

3 posts

Wannabe Geek


  # 2234221 10-May-2019 08:25
Send private message

sbiddle:

 

You can request a Sure Signal to be locked down.

 

Ironically that seems to have been the biggest complaint about them in NZ. In the UK when they launched the biggest complaint was that they were locked down.

 

 

UK forums suggested Vodafone femtocells can be locked down by IMEI whitelist but when I got hold of Vodafone techie here who seemed to actually know something about the Sure Signal, he said they could not (or was that would not), do that in NZ.


ddk

3 posts

Wannabe Geek


  # 2234222 10-May-2019 08:27
Send private message

michaelmurfy:

 

I'm in a simalar position here in Morrinsville. It's about time Spark admitted that their coverage is not the best and offered something like WiFi calling sure signal type of option.

 

You say Sparked offered something. Any more details on what exactly they offered?


5385 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2234224 10-May-2019 08:30
Send private message

ddk:

sbiddle:


You can request a Sure Signal to be locked down.


Ironically that seems to have been the biggest complaint about them in NZ. In the UK when they launched the biggest complaint was that they were locked down.



UK forums suggested Vodafone femtocells can be locked down by IMEI whitelist but when I got hold of Vodafone techie here who seemed to actually know something about the Sure Signal, he said they could not (or was that would not), do that in NZ.



Yes it can be done by IMSI the SIM card number

8193 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  # 2234472 10-May-2019 13:50
Send private message

ddk:

michaelmurfy:


I'm in a simalar position here in Morrinsville. It's about time Spark admitted that their coverage is not the best and offered something like WiFi calling sure signal type of option.


You say Sparked offered something. Any more details on what exactly they offered?


Read my post again. I said if Spark offered..




Regards,

Old3eyes


 1 | 2
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Logitech introduces new Made for Google keyboard and mouse devices
Posted 16-Oct-2019 13:36


MATTR launches to accelerate decentralised identity
Posted 16-Oct-2019 10:28


Vodafone X-Squad powers up for customers
Posted 16-Oct-2019 08:15


D Link ANZ launches EXO Smart Mesh Wi Fi Routers with McAfee protection
Posted 15-Oct-2019 11:31


Major Japanese retailer partners with smart New Zealand technology IMAGR
Posted 14-Oct-2019 10:29


Ola pioneers one-time passcode feature to fight rideshare fraud
Posted 14-Oct-2019 10:24


Spark Sport new home of NZC matches from 2020
Posted 10-Oct-2019 09:59


Meet Nola, Noel Leeming's new digital employee
Posted 4-Oct-2019 08:07


Registrations for Sprout Accelerator open for 2020 season
Posted 4-Oct-2019 08:02


Teletrac Navman welcomes AI tech leader Jens Meggers as new President
Posted 4-Oct-2019 07:41


Vodafone makes voice of 4G (VoLTE) official
Posted 4-Oct-2019 07:36


2degrees Reaches Milestone of 100,000 Broadband Customers
Posted 1-Oct-2019 09:17


Nokia 1 Plus available in New Zealand from 2nd October
Posted 30-Sep-2019 17:46


Ola integrates Apple Pay as payment method in New Zealand
Posted 25-Sep-2019 09:51


Facebook Portal to land in New Zealand
Posted 19-Sep-2019 18:35



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.