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#243760 30-Dec-2018 15:34
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I've been looking at different plan options for my mobile and came across this in the Socialser conditions.

There are other instances where Socialiser can't be used and charges will apply. This includes the following:

The use of voice and video call features
External links in newsfeed, timelines, walls, etc.
External URLs in comments, messages, etc.
Links to applications
Links to external advertisements
Enabling or navigating to features that rely on location services
Facebook features that navigate you out of the site and/or application such as Get directions, Buy tickets, etc., and/or importing contacts from an external email domain, clicking on a user's email address and so on
Background camera app usage on Facebook
Pages Manager apps on Facebook
Using the Opera browser on Facebook or Twitter on your mobile


I can understand the limitations on external URL's and links etc but I'm curious why they discriminate against Opera browser? Not that I'm a user of either Facebook or Twitter but I am a fan of Opera. I'd have though this limitation would apply to any browser.

Anyone have any ideas?




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  #2152312 30-Dec-2018 15:41
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its possible the browser might be proxying the data to reduce the size and their system cant work with that?

 

 








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  #2152313 30-Dec-2018 15:43
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Opera comes with a vpn enabled by default.

Edit: hang on looks like they stopped it for mobile.

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  #2152323 30-Dec-2018 16:19
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l43a2:

 

its possible the browser might be proxying the data to reduce the size and their system cant work with that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know the Opera mobile browser has the option to save data but I doubt Opera would be only browser to this.





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  #2152324 30-Dec-2018 16:20
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Technofreak:

 

l43a2:

 

its possible the browser might be proxying the data to reduce the size and their system cant work with that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think Opera would be only browser to this.

 

 

Chrome often recommends it once too.





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  #2155422 6-Jan-2019 19:55
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From memory it’s because the opera browsers reduces/compacts data used, in doing so the urls/ip addresses of the services are changed/amended meaning they aren’t/won’t billed correctly so socialiser won’t work.




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  #2155436 6-Jan-2019 20:25
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How does that differ from Google's data saver?

This might be old info based on opera's discontinued vpn.

Might be. I would not be game to find out.

 
 
 

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  #2155455 6-Jan-2019 21:15
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gzt: Opera comes with a vpn enabled by default.

Edit: hang on looks like they stopped it for mobile.

 

I believe Opera Mini back in the day used a proxy to 'optimise' the site before sending it to the mobile. 
This process would 'hide' the target/orgin of the data from Spark which would attribute that use to the socialiser data plan rather than your normal pack.

 

The same applies if you use VPN packages as Spark will only see data going to the VPN IP and not the actual content - eg. ExpressVPN 





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