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Topic # 31309 12-Mar-2009 15:20
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http://www.telecom-media.co.nz/releases_detail.asp?id=3586&page=index

Students from Auckland’s Marshall Laing primary school took part in a key milestone in the build of Telecom’s new all-IP next generation network (NGN) today, by completing the first voice over internet protocol (VoIP) phone call.

Telecom CEO Paul Reynolds was on the call and said it was exciting to see the first call completed and especially fitting that it was made by future users of the technology.

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  Reply # 200851 12-Mar-2009 16:50
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Better late than never I guess. About 6 years later than originally planed. 




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  Reply # 200854 12-Mar-2009 16:55
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First IMS call made on Telecom's NGN network


NGN Network?

Next Generation Network Network?


I bet you say ATM machine too :P

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 200871 12-Mar-2009 17:40
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NonprayingMantis: I bet you say ATM machine too :P


Oh yes, did I mention the call was over IMS subsystem

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Reply # 200873 12-Mar-2009 17:45
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taypo:
Telecom CEO Paul Reynolds was on the call and said it was exciting to see the first call completed and especially fitting that it was made by future users of the technology.


"One child piped up saying that his parents were already using VoIP at home, but he was quickly hushed away by Paul's security staff."

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  Reply # 200888 12-Mar-2009 19:14
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Any Orcon+ users pop up to ask why it took Telecom so long to deploy VoIP over POTS? Smile


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  Reply # 200889 12-Mar-2009 19:17
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NonprayingMantis: I bet you say ATM machine too :P

Don't forget your PIN number, especially if you use ASB Bank!

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  Reply # 200897 12-Mar-2009 20:57

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Any Orcon+ users pop up to ask why it took Telecom so long to deploy VoIP over POTS? Smile



Slight difference between VoIP over DSL and a Voice call via RGW onto the IMS platform

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  Reply # 200901 12-Mar-2009 21:08
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gingereejit:
sbiddle:

Any Orcon+ users pop up to ask why it took Telecom so long to deploy VoIP over POTS? Smile



Slight difference between VoIP over DSL and a Voice call via RGW onto the IMS platform



Yes. But that's not what I'm talking about.

Orcon aren't doing VOIP over DSL. Orcon+ voice is VoIP to the cabinet and then POTS to the house - exactly the same as Telecom's VoIP to their ISAM and POTS to the house. 







 

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  Reply # 200907 12-Mar-2009 21:45

sbiddle:
gingereejit:
sbiddle:

Any Orcon+ users pop up to ask why it took Telecom so long to deploy VoIP over POTS? Smile



Slight difference between VoIP over DSL and a Voice call via RGW onto the IMS platform



Yes. But that's not what I'm talking about.

Orcon aren't doing VOIP over DSL. Orcon+ voice is VoIP to the cabinet and then POTS to the house - exactly the same as Telecom's VoIP to their ISAM and POTS to the house. 







 


What your suggesting is some sort of POTS->SIP/H.248 switching done at the DSLAM in the cabinet, such as ISAM-V like tecnology with a SIP->PSTN gateway at the CO. Which is POTS Emulation and needs an AGCF to swtch the traffic onto the underlying IMS platform

I hadn't heard that Orcon had rolled this technology out yet.

They've certainly been spruiking the LLU deployed cabinets, and in fact I saw the dedicated patch panels for the orcon DSLAMs in the MDF on a tour of Wellington CENTREX last week

Any public domain media describing their H.248/SIP/IMS platform?

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  Reply # 200910 12-Mar-2009 21:51
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gingereejit: What your suggesting is some sort of POTS->SIP/H.248 switching done at the DSLAM in the cabinet, such as ISAM-V like tecnology with a SIP->PSTN gateway at the CO. Which is POTS Emulation and needs an AGCF to swtch the traffic onto the underlying IMS platform

I hadn't heard that Orcon had rolled this technology out yet.

They've certainly been spruiking the LLU deployed cabinets, and in fact I saw the dedicated patch panels for the orcon DSLAMs in the MDF on a tour of Wellington CENTREX last week


This was deployed by Orcon with their first LLU in Auckland months ago already - the first in the world actually.

Imagine you have an ATA device at home and a phone plugged to it. Now imagine Orcon is actually hosting the ATA device at the Exchange and the phone goes over the copper line and plugs to it. That's pretty much it.




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  Reply # 200911 12-Mar-2009 21:59
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gingereejit:

What your suggesting is some sort of POTS->SIP/H.248 switching done at the DSLAM in the cabinet, such as ISAM-V like tecnology with a SIP->PSTN gateway at the CO. Which is POTS Emulation and needs an AGCF to swtch the traffic onto the underlying IMS platform



Thats exactly what we are doing, since launch. Vodafone also do the same thing on their RED network.

Works well!

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  Reply # 200912 12-Mar-2009 22:00

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gingereejit: What your suggesting is some sort of POTS->SIP/H.248 switching done at the DSLAM in the cabinet, such as ISAM-V like tecnology with a SIP->PSTN gateway at the CO. Which is POTS Emulation and needs an AGCF to swtch the traffic onto the underlying IMS platform

I hadn't heard that Orcon had rolled this technology out yet.

They've certainly been spruiking the LLU deployed cabinets, and in fact I saw the dedicated patch panels for the orcon DSLAMs in the MDF on a tour of Wellington CENTREX last week


This was deployed by Orcon with their first LLU in Auckland months ago already - the first in the world actually.

Imagine you have an ATA device at home and a phone plugged to it. Now imagine Orcon is actually hosting the ATA device at the Exchange and the phone goes over the copper line and plugs to it. That's pretty much it.


I get you now - ATA to VoIP gateway but done at the exchange.

So, as I was saying, not quite IMS! ;)

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  Reply # 200913 12-Mar-2009 22:01
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No, no... That was an oversimplification so people can get the concept. Follow the post Sounddude wrote just before your last comment for a confirmation from Orcon...




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  Reply # 200914 12-Mar-2009 22:04
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Behodar:
NonprayingMantis: I bet you say ATM machine too :P

Don't forget your PIN number, especially if you use ASB Bank!


Which can only be used over the POTS system!




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  Reply # 200918 12-Mar-2009 22:26

freitasm: No, no... That was an oversimplification so people can get the concept. Follow the post Sounddude wrote just before your last comment for a confirmation from Orcon...


I see now - we were writing replies at the same time!

Google is my friend..


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http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha/2089
Orcon are using Siemens


Who's implementing Vodafones NGN Network, Huawei, Ericsson?

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