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Topic # 4895 6-Sep-2005 17:14
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hi, was great to meet some of you in wellie weeks ago. Excellent to win the bluetooth headset. - ta.

Can anyone please advise on obtaining zero-rating ip address, for WAP gateway.

I am having problems getting thru to the right people at Telecom via our account manager to get a zero-rating on traffic to and from our web server sent via WAP gateway.

We have a MIDlet that retrieves a stream of (encoded) stock and foreign exchange data from our web servers. We offer this as a subscription, and do not want our clients to incur a variable data billing for traffic caused by this MIDlet. At the geekzone party, several people mentioned getting a zero-rated IP address would solve this.
d-zone guys seem unaware?! of zero-rating...

thanks!

p.s. if anyone on voda or cdma wants to beta trial live financial data and live ananlysis charts on their phone, it would be great to have some users test on different handsets.
There is live quotes for Sydney Futures Exchange, Australian Stock Exchange, NZ Stock Exchange, all mayor and minor Foreign exchange cross and spot rates etc etc.
The charts are fully interactive with multile time periods, and technical analysis indicators.
This description was not at all intended as a sales push, more as a descriptin of what can be tested. In appreciation....


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  Reply # 19771 6-Sep-2005 19:37
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Java MIDlets over CDMA will alway attact data charges of $50 a megabyte.... Go buy a Vodafone and pay your standard data plan charges instead of being forced this horrendous rate.

CDMA is tighly knit with WAP, there seems to be no way of freeing that up. (my aim was to use the standard "jamamobile" gateway but it didn't work)



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  Reply # 19773 6-Sep-2005 20:27
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Thanks for your opinion, but it doesn't answer the question... :-)

We are not able to dictate that our subscribers swap networks. In addition i am not clear that MIDlet based traffic is significantly cheaper on Vodafone... (I have posted this on a seperate thread in the vodafone forum.)

The low latency of CDMA network is important for subscribers who view data and care about waiting for any sub-second delays in receiving price quote updates. Many financial information data feeds update 10 to 100 times a second, so we are already having to throw away many updates... For this reason there is a desire to obtain a zero-rated domin name and associated bulk pricing contract on the Telecom network.



 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 19775 6-Sep-2005 20:37
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I think you might be looking for a service that doesnt exist.

Try asking 'Jama' on here if he knows anyone that could help you out.




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  Reply # 19780 6-Sep-2005 21:49
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Thanks for that suggestion. I live in hope that zero-rated (ie reverse billing) is a service, and not just the phrase used to describe the telcos' own portals zero rated domain name...

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  Reply # 19848 8-Sep-2005 13:48
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Firstly, paradoxsm for an uber geek, your quite misinformed... $50 a meg is certanly not always the price...

Secondly, eodCharts I have PM'd you with my contact details... flick me through your proposal and I'll try to get it to the right people...

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  Reply # 19849 8-Sep-2005 15:16
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thanks for your help felix. if i have been wrong on the pricing, i'll be sure to let people know in this thread.

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  Reply # 19868 9-Sep-2005 01:39
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Felix: Firstly, paradoxsm for an uber geek, your quite misinformed... $50 a meg is certanly not always the price...

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When is it not the price? My understanding of Telecom's charging is that WAP traffic to the Telecom site is free, all other WAP traffic is $50 MB. Unlike Vodafone Telecom don't include WAP traffic in your data allowance.

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  Reply # 19893 9-Sep-2005 12:29
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when your in the garden...




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Reply # 20384 22-Sep-2005 17:01
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i am interested in the vodafone exchange stuff and my fone is a Motorola V171 please reply??



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  Reply # 20385 22-Sep-2005 17:04
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hi vodafone_rulez - your message is not very clear.
Are you saying that you want to get stock exchange prices on your phone? If yes please Im privately. thanks.

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Reply # 20387 22-Sep-2005 17:09
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Motorola 171 has this even got GPRS



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  Reply # 20388 22-Sep-2005 17:14
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GPRS is not needed by our MIDlet to display charts and analysis of financial prices. Even a slow CSD data connection is fine!

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  Reply # 20392 22-Sep-2005 21:42
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I am confused why this should be free, You think the 027 network was free to build and the staff that are employed and the power is not cheap either

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  Reply # 20399 23-Sep-2005 01:03
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Felix: Firstly, paradoxsm for an uber geek, your quite misinformed... $50 a meg is certanly not always the price...

The Xtra menu is a total bore. if you go off it, you pay $50 a meg or 35c to read one news story,, vodafone charge you $1 a WEEK for unlimited access. as they even send you headline updates over PXT!

The "Xtra" main pages are not all free, I seem to get charged the moment I go into things that should not really be charging for (picture messaging, IM, info pages) it seems zero rates means only "info.waptrial.co.nz" and "wap2menu.waptrial.co.nz" and the various "XXXX.wapflash.net.nz sites. (ringtones, news, xtramail)

Telecom need to move on this exorbidant WAP pricing. It's totally horrendous.

This is my one really b1..h complaint with 027 and I know the reason for this scary price and it's selfish corporate w***kness.

I like Telecoms service apart from this so don't think they are all bad :-)

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  Reply # 20408 23-Sep-2005 08:44
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johnr: I am confused why this should be free, You think the 027 network was free to build and the staff that are employed and the power is not cheap either

I think he wants a zero rated system, and pay in bulk, rather than by the kb.




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