Can your employer read the texts you send from the Telecom XT mobile phone that they have provided?

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#57497 15-Feb-2010 18:22

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#299168 15-Feb-2010 18:28

Doubted if they can. I'd say 99.99% No

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#299169 15-Feb-2010 18:29

If they have the physical phone and you haven't deleted the sent messages, then quite possibly yes.

Same goes with emails and phones from other providers.

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#299171 15-Feb-2010 18:39

Off the network no way on the phone then yes

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#299172 15-Feb-2010 18:41

If you send them the text, they sure can.

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#299174 15-Feb-2010 18:55

The answer is Yes......with a court order from the NZ Police.

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#299180 15-Feb-2010 19:20

In the last NZ Security magazine to make its way into my in tray at work there was an article which gave the impression that the Telco's would release this kind of info to the account holder on request after the payment of a charge (they mentioned $50 per 3 days). The article is in this pdf on page 26. Can someone from the Telco's confirm or deny this?

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#299187 15-Feb-2010 19:32

seems to imply they can get a list of the numbers and time of txts, but doesn't say anything about reading them.

I doubt they could read them. I have a vague memory of a court case where the contents of an SMS would have acquitted someone, but couldn't be proved because they coulndn't prove what it said.

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#299195 15-Feb-2010 19:46

On the contrary, my boss and I went into Vodafone on Lambton Quay (WLG) to sort out an issue (The number came registered to a Premium SMS service out of the box)

After asking for the PIN number setup on the account, a list of all the SMS messages sent and received by the phone was up on their computer screen.

I can't comment on Telecom, but there is definitely an accessible record with Vodafone. How easy are 4 digit to guess again?

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#299259 15-Feb-2010 20:41

Vodafone store employees have access to that? Are you sure it included the SMS contents, not only the phone numbers?

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#299270 15-Feb-2010 20:50

freitasm: Vodafone store employees have access to that? Are you sure it included the SMS contents, not only the phone numbers?

I can completely guarantee it. Both myself and my boss saw it.

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#299271 15-Feb-2010 20:51

Paul Brislen just emailed me saying that content does not show up, only the numbers.

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#299274 15-Feb-2010 20:54

Thanks everyone for being so spontaneous.
My employers do not see my phone as i'm on a different island to them, but they do get the bills. I wanted to know if they could get a print out of all the texts i send and receive.

My boss said something that made me think twice.
He was talking to me about how I should tell him everything about my day etc, and then he quoted a " word for word" text conversation that my son and I had earlier that day, about him not telling me that he wouldn't be home for tea.

It could have been paranoia setting in or just a coincidence. I'm still not sure.

They gave me a laptop too, because I work from home I also use it for personal use and they know about it.
Using my phone and laptop for personal use isn't the issue, because they say that's OK. But them knowing all about me, where I go on my own time etc, bothers me a lot. My car is already tracked so they even know when I stop for a pee when i'm out on the road.

I know they could probably hack into the camera on the lid of the laptop, because that was on the news last year. Because I often work in the nude or on a really bad hair day, I have stuck a sticky over it. I wouldn't want to scare them completly!!!

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#299299 15-Feb-2010 21:26

JAMMAN2110:
freitasm: Vodafone store employees have access to that? Are you sure it included the SMS contents, not only the phone numbers?

I can completely guarantee it. Both myself and my boss saw it.

No way it included the content they could see sms sent from and to time and date only. This is 100 percent wrong and why they could see the permium sms number coming in as its charged to the prepay account.

Please check your facts before postin

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#299309 15-Feb-2010 21:43

johnr: No way it included the content they could see sms sent from and to time and date only. This is 100 percent wrong and why they could see the permium sms number coming in as its charged to the prepay account.

Please check your facts before postin

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I haven't seen anything about "prepay" in this discussion so far.

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#299310 15-Feb-2010 21:43

johnr:
JAMMAN2110:
freitasm: Vodafone store employees have access to that? Are you sure it included the SMS contents, not only the phone numbers?

I can completely guarantee it. Both myself and my boss saw it.

No way it included the content they could see sms sent from and to time and date only. This is 100 percent wrong and why they could see the permium sms number coming in as its charged to the prepay account.

Please check your facts before postin

John

Thank you John, it's nice to know what I can and can't see.

Obviously the two of us were mistaken.. Thats completely possible right? We both imagined the messages that were on my phone, also being on the screen infront of us, both premium and standard.. It looks like we'll have to reconsider mobile carrier

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