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Topic # 6069 22-Dec-2005 19:42
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Is Telecom required to operate a network until a certain date or can they close it whenever they want?

Also what sort of entitlement would a user of 025 have when the network was closed, i'm pretty sure nothing said "this network make close rendering your mobile useless whenever we want" when I bought the phone from them.

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  Reply # 25202 22-Dec-2005 19:52
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Telecom could shut the network down at any time they like.

I am sure however that they would come to some form of deal where they upgrade customers to new 027 phones. The bad PR they got when they installed their new payphones would be nothing compared to the backlash they would get.

Having said that speaking to a friend the other day there are only a fraction of their customer base still on 025 and the bulk of them are very very unprofitable customers (many who may spend only a few $ per month) so I'm sure Telecom would be waiting for as long as they can to give those customers a free phone when their chances of ever making a profit are non existant. There can't be too many $29 Philips ISIS's left out there still working! :-)





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  Reply # 25205 22-Dec-2005 20:18
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Thanks,

My mums still using her old Nokia brick and pretty happy with it.
Noticed the SwapYa program they are running but they want $49 to upgrade to a 2280 (you can get them for around that new on trade me anyway) so will probably keep holding out.

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Reply # 25208 22-Dec-2005 21:15
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When Telecom launched CDMA they publicly said the 025 network would be operated for another 7 years before being totally decomissioned. That would make it mid 2007 so you have another 18 months to go.

You can buy CDMA phones for as low as $99 which include a $50 prepay credit.


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  Reply # 25213 22-Dec-2005 21:37
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Bet if they turned it off early TCNZ could save some $$$

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  Reply # 25214 22-Dec-2005 22:01
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johnr: Bet if they turned it off early TCNZ could save some $$$


Telecom have a management agreement with Ericsson thru 2007 so it'd probably cost them more to end it than keep the network operational!


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  Reply # 25236 23-Dec-2005 10:03
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025 users should note that Telecom have given them 7 yearss to change to 027 and many cases now 027 is far superior to 025 for foot print coverage however the better analogue and 3 boosted handsets are still better for overall coverage in a few rural areas.

In Aussie the Govt told Telstra to cut the analogue network and they did in 12 months, you had no choice.

Personally if you haven't changed to 027 and are spending zip on your mobile how can you expect a new free phone etc.

The only people i feel for with the network closure are users of Telemetry equipment and 3 watt booste phone users and rural users. Telecom still have some work to fo here!!





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  Reply # 25247 23-Dec-2005 11:07
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025 is DEAD c/mon.

The few that exist pretty well all have dead batteries. I would suspect there are less than 10,000 left now. Telecom apparently had a better than average takeup on 027.
The few i know still in use are car phones, One Philips ISIS I gve to gran ma ma and a nokia 5120 which still goes which my aunt has (bought in 1998)

As for the "free" phones, they are Nokia 2280's with their one-day battery life and hideous SMS menu's, they have truckloads of those things left, they are the Philips ISIS of 2005.


Remember they could have done what Australia did in 1999, said by 2000 there are no mre analogues!

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Reply # 25259 23-Dec-2005 17:10
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A migration project has been underway for some time now to address 025 data (telemetry, fax, etc) customers.

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  Reply # 25261 23-Dec-2005 17:35
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I have an old motorola profile prepaid with car charger that I use once a year, if that (a true glovebox mobile), the writings been on the wall for a while for 025 but it looks so cool I dont want to part with it or even decommision it until they pull the plug.

I am comtemplating making a call at the precise moment they pull the plug on 025 just so that the last call made is dropped in a dramatic last stand. (this is a dream, I know as I would never know when 025 stops)

I am not holding out for any specials to replace the motorola - I can choose now to spend $49 on a Nokia or let her die a dignified death........R.I.P Motorola





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Reply # 25262 23-Dec-2005 17:44
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riahon: I am comtemplating making a call at the precise moment they pull the plug on 025 just so that the last call made is dropped in a dramatic last stand.
That would be interesting...






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  Reply # 25451 29-Dec-2005 10:32
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Ha ha - my parents are still on their Motorola StarTAC - batteries are still fine, and the old 200-minute per month plan is still cheaper for them than anything else they can get on anyone else.

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I remember some time ago my friend had a scanner and he showed me how easy it was to listen in on telecom 025 calls - man that is dodgy! - if you are talking on 025 phones still, there is bound to be someone listening.

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  Reply # 25642 3-Jan-2006 10:49
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And it was also very very easy to clone an 025 phone - with some very simply equipment (the right scanner & PC software) you could capture the EAN & NAM setup and program your own Motorola brick phone up as somebody's elses.

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  Reply # 25662 3-Jan-2006 16:20
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mikey: I remember some time ago my friend had a scanner and he showed me how easy it was to listen in on telecom 025 calls - man that is dodgy! - if you are talking on 025 phones still, there is bound to be someone listening.


Would that be digital or analog?




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  Reply # 25663 3-Jan-2006 17:02
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cokemaster:
mikey: I remember some time ago my friend had a scanner and he showed me how easy it was to listen in on telecom 025 calls - man that is dodgy! - if you are talking on 025 phones still, there is bound to be someone listening.


Would that be digital or analog?


Just the analogue calls.


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