Telecom August launch for VDSL2 service

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#60771 3-May-2010 09:59

I see telecom are selling VDSL2 to retail customers in August.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/3648604/August-launch-for-VDSL2-service

Telecom installed a new cabinet outside my house a couple of months ago. Does this mean I can subscribe to VDSL2 on day one? (pending new modem/filter installation etc....).

Hopefully the caps increase accordingly.

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#325950 3-May-2010 10:11

My understanding is all cabinets installed within the last few couple of months have VDSL cards fitted but the remainder and most exchanges still need to be upgraded.

The exchanges that already have a VDSL service are shown on the Telecom Wholesale maps page.

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#325956 3-May-2010 10:34

I hope you can take it up from day 1, but note this is Telecom Wholesale offering the product to resellers like Telecom Retail, Orcon, Vodafone etc.

You cant buy the product directly from Wholesale and will have to wait for a Retail arm to starting offering a packaged product.

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#325982 3-May-2010 12:18

Might be a good time to start reminding the sales and marketing departments of your provider that this technology isn't just coming, it's already here for them to test and they should be doing that already.

For most, actual implementation isn't going to be all that hard. They just need time to put a price on the product. For the smaller providers finding good quality guinea pigs, close an exchange, is going to be the hard part.

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#326093 3-May-2010 16:11

Im a little confused by the article

While it states this (which was announced publicly some time ago):
<quote>The Commerce Commission said last month that Telecom Wholesale could charge customers a premium for VDSL2, on the condition it was used to provide a premium service offering more than just higher speeds</quote>

But the article also states:
<quote>Superfast broadband will cost about an extra $12 a month before any extra margins charged by retailers, meaning a premium of about $20 a month is likely...

In future, Telecom Wholesale will offer VDSL2 plans that will mean customers get priority for capacity over other customers when networks are congested</quote>

Is this just an error in the article, is telecom not following CC guidelines, or am i just missing something?

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#326122 3-May-2010 17:08

Also on ADSL 2+ in Christchurch speed test is 12 Mb/s

Speed test to Auckland is around 4 Mb/s

Hows VDSL2 going to make anything better? Most stuff I'll access will be outside Christchurch and I'm already capable of going higher speeds then what getting? Don't see how being capable of higher speeds going to make any difference.

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#326129 3-May-2010 17:25

Is there any public info about how much potential throughput there is from the SI to the NI? There's a few providers with cable around the country now, it'd nice to know how this will scale if the south island starts pushing serious traffic up here.

rugrat: Speed test to Auckland is around 4 Mb/s .

Is this a Telecom Wholesale or Unbundled (Orcon+ type) connection?

If it's an unbundled connection, then there's really no excuse. You should be seeing your connection max out at about 80% of your sync-rate (Damned TCP and ATM Overheads).

If it's Telecom, then we can blame the how much Back-haul Telecom will allow your provider to push through their network, or what they're willing to pay for I guess. I don't know the commercials around how they're doing this for VDSL, but if it's the same as the pitiful trickle that they allow for standard DSL then we've got a ways to go yet.

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#326132 3-May-2010 17:42

Telecom direct. Just did some new tests and getting 12 Mb/s around whole country at present. I see what it is in business hours as that's when I got the 4 Mb/s result, talk about erratic though. Sydneys a nice 4-5 Mb/s at moment last tests below 1.

Back to topic my question is that data speed has to be rationed as it is, so won't higher speeds mean more rationing has to be done, which then means no point having higher speeds?

Also be interested in answer to Nickb800s post above. Get the impression they're going to get more capacity by slowing down peoples internet connections in periods of congestion to give it to the VDSL2 users.

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#326143 3-May-2010 18:28

I wonder whether that article was simply written by somebody who doesn't understand things fully and is confused with the QinQ tagging which delivers reserved bandwidth ranging from 40 up to 190kbps for VoIP?

This is available now with EUBA on ADSL2+ and will obviously be available with VDSL as well.