Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.

140 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 4

Topic # 6903 3-Mar-2006 13:04
Send private message

There is an interesting NZ Herald article about Bernard Hill, who is the Head of Competition Affairs in the Office of Telecommunications Authority in HK. He mentions his views about how unbundling worked in HK to encourage infrastructure investment. What does everyone think about this?

Create new topic
Hawkes Bay
8477 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4

Mod Emeritus
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 29758 3-Mar-2006 13:51
Send private message

Yes very interesting...

especially the following bits:

It's got everything to do with density. With the tightest living conditions in the world, where up to 40,000 people live in one apartment complex, it has been incredibly efficient to roll out networks. With a very small geographic area - Hong Kong's land mass isn't even 1 per cent of New Zealand's - fixed operators effectively get more bang for their buck.

Opening up Telecom's network to competitors through simple local loop unbundling, as numerous industry analysts here are urging, may not be the long-term answer to the country's woeful broadband uptake.

Instead, Hill suggests an unbundling scheme where Telecom's competitors must also guarantee infrastructure investment.

"If you unbundle in favour of people who are actually going to build infrastructure, that might be something.

"But if you're just going to invite other resellers into the market, you're not achieving very much," he says.

Which is just about word for word of many discussions here on GZ on the topic (from the pro-Telecom & anti-unbundling camp).

It sounds more than three times as dense as New Zealand in terms of population, so in effect they have less operators in proportion to that density of population than we do...

Visit for New Zealand based Hosted Exchange, Virtual Servers, Web Hosting, FTP Backup & more.
(1GB free FTP storage, or larger plans from $5.75)
 - Setup your own mailserver at home on Ubuntu Server - full step by step howto here.
 - Have you seen this: Nathan "KFC4LIFE" Dunn.

1420 posts

Uber Geek


Reply # 29761 3-Mar-2006 14:47
Send private message

Wow I feel vindicated. Bernard Hill is either telepathic or he reads Geekzone!


BDFL - Memuneh
59591 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10765

Lifetime subscriber

Reply # 29762 3-Mar-2006 14:49
Send private message

Do you know his IP address?

But, seriously, exactly what I think. ULL is just good for the competitor who will suck the infrastructure, not offering anything new and perhaps even providing a service that is no better than what is already there.

Where is the innovation, modern services, investment in framework? Nop, I don't think the people crying for ULL want to do any of these...

1420 posts

Uber Geek


  Reply # 29763 3-Mar-2006 15:16
Send private message

Annette Presley gave away 35,000 loaves of bread yesterday. That could have paid for 10meters of fibre!

'Someone is giving away a lot of bread'

140 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 4

  Reply # 29765 3-Mar-2006 15:24
Send private message

Surely it couldn't have been fresh bread...

At the moment the main choice we have is to do with price and data allowance. I would certainly hope ISPs can offer more differentiation than that (eg services).

Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:

News »

Intel reimagines data centre storage with new 3D NAND SSDs
Posted 16-Feb-2018 15:21

Ground-breaking business programme begins in Hamilton
Posted 16-Feb-2018 10:18

Government to continue search for first Chief Technology Officer
Posted 12-Feb-2018 20:30

Time to take Appleā€™s iPad Pro seriously
Posted 12-Feb-2018 16:54

New Fujifilm X-A5 brings selfie features to mirrorless camera
Posted 9-Feb-2018 09:12

D-Link ANZ expands connected smart home with new HD Wi-Fi cameras
Posted 9-Feb-2018 09:01

Dragon Professional for Mac V6: Near perfect dictation
Posted 9-Feb-2018 08:26

OPPO announces R11s with claims to be the picture perfect smartphone
Posted 2-Feb-2018 13:28

Vocus Communications wins a place on the TaaS panel
Posted 26-Jan-2018 15:16

SwipedOn raises $1 million capital
Posted 26-Jan-2018 15:15

Slingshot offers unlimited gigabit fibre for under a ton
Posted 25-Jan-2018 13:51

Spark doubles down on wireless broadband
Posted 24-Jan-2018 15:44

New Zealand's IT industry in 2018 and beyond
Posted 22-Jan-2018 12:50

Introducing your new workplace headache: Gen Z
Posted 22-Jan-2018 12:45

Jucy set to introduce electric campervan fleet
Posted 22-Jan-2018 12:41

Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.