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#76913 8-Feb-2011 17:35
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  #436906 8-Feb-2011 17:42
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This is good.

Now we've got this silly RBI thing out of the way perhaps we'll see these guys getting focused on connecting customers like Tim.





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  #437397 9-Feb-2011 19:21
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Doesnt compass or some other wisp have a rather large coverage around there?

It amazes me when I set up a microwave transmitter for a small rural community, set up a sign on the side of the road with my phone number saying rural broadband now avaliable, call...
Then i go and deliver flyers into the mailboxes,
But i find out half of them ring telecom who says no there is no broadband, the sign is wrong.

Its only when word of mouth informs them that i am 'not' telecom and they get all confused and ask me who I work for when i arrive to do a line of sight check. So i say its a hobby.


I would be pretty interested to find out what equipment they are using to deliver the 10+ mbits now.
I didnt think the old Alvarion gear they were using at the Kordia High Sites was that fast.







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  #437414 9-Feb-2011 19:38
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raytaylor: Doesnt compass or some other wisp have a rather large coverage around there?

It amazes me when I set up a microwave transmitter for a small rural community, set up a sign on the side of the road with my phone number saying rural broadband now avaliable, call...
Then i go and deliver flyers into the mailboxes,
But i find out half of them ring telecom who says no there is no broadband, the sign is wrong.

Its only when word of mouth informs them that i am 'not' telecom and they get all confused and ask me who I work for when i arrive to do a line of sight check. So i say its a hobby.


I would be pretty interested to find out what equipment they are using to deliver the 10+ mbits now.
I didnt think the old Alvarion gear they were using at the Kordia High Sites was that fast.





I wonder if Kordia are now using LTE. They are building a LTE network in Aussie.



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  #437574 10-Feb-2011 00:54
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I wouldnt think LTE goes long distance, though you might be right.
Though we would probably have seen some huge announcement 




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  #437726 10-Feb-2011 13:11
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raytaylor: I wouldnt think LTE goes long distance, though you might be right.
Though we would probably have seen some huge announcement 


From what I have read LTE on 700Mhz goes a fair distance; in Russia there are even plans to deploy services for as low frequencies as 450Mhz which allow for great distances to be covered that have very low population density.

I remember hearing that part of the RBI that they were goign to use 2.6Ghz which I thought would be rather impractical given its lack of distance and hopelessness when it comes to hilly areas.




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  #438060 10-Feb-2011 23:18
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kawaii:
I remember hearing that part of the RBI that they were goign to use 2.6Ghz which I thought would be rather impractical given its lack of distance and hopelessness when it comes to hilly areas.


I think thats how vodafone / telecom would have got the tender.
Telecom has lots of rural fibre, and vodafone has the low frequencies to work around the small hills.




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  #439852 15-Feb-2011 15:22
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I believe the other bid was at 2.3GHz frequency, and you are right that in the past these frequencies were not as useful as lower frequencies due to propagation performance.

The new technologies seem to overcome this problem really well, Nokia-Siemens run a trial with LTE on 2.3GHz where they got 100Mbps over 75km (hill top to hill top). In NZ you would hit a hill or mountain before that, but it shows that you can get very good distance at this frequency and really high speed. I think they go for the higher frequencies because you can get big chunks of frequency which mean you can get really impressive speeds. From what I have read of LTE advanced (which is currently being trialled) you need at least a 40MHz channel to get the full benefit, therefore most of world is looking at 2.3, 2.6 and 3.5GHz at present, and some will use lower frequencies when TV makes room around 700/800MHz.

The trick is to use “Fixed wireless” if you want the distance. The antenna technology and the fact you can have higher power at the users end means excellent reliable performance over long distances. I understand that Vodafone also bid fixed wireless but at 3G, I cant understand why they would bother when even the current WiMax networks would perform better, I guess it depends if they are trying to just extend their cell phones or wanting to put in high capacity broadband….maybe Rural NZ needed cell phones more than fast broadband?....can't rely just on XT ;-)

 

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