Diy phone wiring question

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nimble

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#90734 28-Sep-2011 15:49

Hi there. I know this has been dicussed before and i have searched and read other posts but still not 100% sure
as the advice i have had contradicts what i have read here!!!

I have recently relocated a house and installing new phone system i have run 2 wire telephone cable daisy chained about the house. Telecom has run cable down my 100m drive up under my house.

Initially someone i trusted told me i need a master jack but now apparently this isn't so.
I am installing PDL 600 telephone modules and jsut want to connect the first one to give me phone and broadband.

My questions are:

Will one of these modules just connect directly to the telecom incoming wires without the need of a master jack?

Will any modern cordless phone then work...(will the ringer be built into the phone)

Do i need any special tools to wire up the first initial jack?

Many thanks to anyone with any info or advice

nimble

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#526815 28-Sep-2011 15:59

also this is the PDL module i think i need?
http://www.electricaldirectltd.co.nz/ecommerce.php?func=14&DCI=26&DPT=p&DPI=1148&S=79114fc605ae87e9016a867e6db539d7

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#526819 28-Sep-2011 16:07

Hi, have telecom completed what they are doing or still more to go? It is not common practice anymore to have the leadin terminate on a first socket (ala master) but rather an ETP (small white box) is placed on the side of the house where the external leadin and internal wiring transition.

You say 2wire phone cabling, I presume you mean 2pair (blue pair and orange pair), I strongly recommend that you install a master filter in the ETP and run the voice on the blue pair and dasiy chained to all the jacks and the DSL on the orange pair and goes to a 2nd socket to the voice socket where the modem goes.

All modern phones are two wire only, the ringer capacitor is internal to each phone. The old 3wire setup with Master and Slave sockets is not allowed anymore.

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nimble

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#526848 28-Sep-2011 16:46

awesome...thanks so much. Things becoming clearer now!!! Telecom finished now i was hoping to complete myself.
My cable was given to me and is 4 pair. I have also been given a hardwired filter which i will install in the ETP and split for DSL as advised.

Where would i buy the external termination box? I take it that this box is just termination point so essentially it works the same as connecting directly? I will definitely follow your advice for best practise.

Thanks so much

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#526856 28-Sep-2011 16:53

When you have the opportunity why would you do daisy chaining rather than star wiring? You do realize you will most likely have to redo your wiring at a later point in time for fibre etc.?

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nimble

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#526860 28-Sep-2011 17:00

I didn't know when i did it unfortuantely. I do have starwired cat5 everywhere too. I also ran two protected 6 pair cat6 cables all the way up my drive in case ei ever need electric gates cause i'm in the country.

Guess i should joined here sooner!! aprreciate the advice

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#526871 28-Sep-2011 17:24

nimble: I didn't know when i did it unfortuantely. I do have starwired cat5 everywhere too. I also ran two protected 6 pair cat6 cables all the way up my drive in case ei ever need electric gates cause i'm in the country.

Guess i should joined here sooner!! aprreciate the advice

If you have starwired CAT5 everywhere then use that for the phone/broadband as well.

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#526882 28-Sep-2011 18:00

Hi did telecom not install an ETP, have they actually connected the other end at the pillar/street verge. You cannot purchase them, only Telecom can supply them thats why I suspect they have not completed, how have they left the cable at the house end, picture maybe.

If you have star wired then obviously use that for data, but ideally with the master filter take the DSL line from the ETP to where you have the star cabling, then you can put your modem there and feed ethernet from the router (and extra switch if you need more ports) to any of the outlets around the house.

Maybe expalin more of what you have run.

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#526887 28-Sep-2011 18:22

If you haven't yet purchased the PDL modules I'd just recommend RJ45's. 1/5 of the cost and are now regarded as best practice for all new installs rather than BT jacks.