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Topic # 9836 17-Oct-2006 11:32
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i'm quite excited about xtra's new unleashed plans. now is xtra going to make it easy for it's customers on the current broadband plans(adventure etc) to switch over to the 'go large' plan? will the switch be instant or take a few days?
 the unlimited go large plan is good,but why don't xtra state on their unleashed plan website if people can use as much data as they want between midnight and 4pm and not have to worry about the 700mb daily peak hours limit?
 now looking at the go express plan,it only has a 2gb limit,but the speed is max/max. why is this limit so small? personally,i think a 100gb limit on the go express plan would be good and then heavy broadband users could choose between the go large and go express plan.


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  Reply # 48837 17-Oct-2006 12:14
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tom4life: i now is xtra going to make it easy for it's customers on the current broadband plans(adventure etc) to switch over to the 'go large' plan? will the switch be instant or take a few days? .... now looking at the go express plan,it only has a 2gb limit,but the speed is max/max. why is this limit so small? personally,i think a 100gb limit on the go express plan would be good and then heavy broadband users could choose between the go large and go express plan.



Tom Xtra will begin migrating customers from October 26th onwards to the new plans and they will contact you about this. It's likely to take more than a 'few' days, unless they permit as they did with the last speed change for customers to take advantage of the new speeds if they change plans (i.e. Go to Go Large).

100GB!!! You have to be joking, data cost money!! Besides who would go on Xtra's GO Large if Go Express plan had such a limit. Maybe 5GB or 10GB at a push would be nice, but 100GB is just over the top (OTT) for the price point of $49.95!!

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  Reply # 48839 17-Oct-2006 12:44
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nzbnw,on the go large plan you can use as much data as you want between 12am-4pm each day,so users will be able to use alot more than 100gb if they want to each month.the  reason as to why i'd want 100gb cap on the go express plan is it could be for users who don't what to have to worry about the 700mb limit between 4pm-midnight. the only reason xtra doesn't allow more than 700mb a day between 4pm-midnight is because it's network can't handle it during peak hours. nzbnw,it has nothing to do with data costs,because the go large plan is unlimited.


i think iptv will become more popular in nz as more people get broadband.look at orcon now streaming alttv live on it's website.i am sure xtra's website will have live tv in the future(live tv1,2,3,c4,prime,triangletv) and then more and more users would be watching tv online.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 48850 17-Oct-2006 14:29
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But 100GB is much much more than is required at this point in time by a large majority of users. People who use 100GB should pay to use it, and as I said before 100GB at $49.95 is OTT.

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nzbnw,it has nothing to do with data costs


Well tom thats news to me. Xtra themselves say the Go Large plan is not designed for heavy downloaders. otherwise they would not impliment Fair Use and Traffic Management Policy(s).

PS: no need to explain the plan to me, I know more than enough about it.

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  Reply # 48854 17-Oct-2006 14:45

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Reply # 48855 17-Oct-2006 14:51
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nzbnw: But 100GB is much much more than is required at this point in time by a large majority of users. People who use 100GB should pay to use it, and as I said before 100GB at $49.95 is OTT.
Agreed. Why is that people want all for free? I don't see people buying a new car and then getting all the petrol they can consume for free...







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  Reply # 48857 17-Oct-2006 14:58
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yeah but xtra and other isp's already give you as much data as you want for free. currently if you go over your data cap,you get lowered to dial-up speed,but you can still download as much as you want but at a lower speed. so obviously data costs do not matter and people in the usa,uk etc have unlimited data plans.

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Reply # 48858 17-Oct-2006 15:02
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Interesting to note, I just used the Xtra Plans website, and it seems customers who are on Explorer or Adventure will be switched to 'new plans' (same names) that I cant seem to find else where on the website (grandfathered plans??) where customers will countine to receive the same benefits and datacap, but will not be subject to Fair Use or Traffic Managment.








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  Reply # 48861 17-Oct-2006 15:07
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tom4life: yeah but xtra and other isp's already give you as much data as you want for free. currently if you go over your data cap,you get lowered to dial-up speed,but you can still download as much as you want but at a lower speed. so obviously data costs do not matter and people in the usa,uk etc have unlimited data plans.


By slowing you down ISPs restrict the amount of data you can download, hence it costs them less.

Population base is a key factor in the USA / UK, and it cost more to get data from the USA etc to New Zealand compared to people in the USA downloading from US based sources.

So obviously data costs do matter.....







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  Reply # 48870 17-Oct-2006 17:16
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tom4life: yeah but xtra and other isp's already give you as much data as you want for free. currently if you go over your data cap,you get lowered to dial-up speed,but you can still download as much as you want but at a lower speed. so obviously data costs do not matter and people in the usa,uk etc have unlimited data plans..

I hate to agree with the others but your dreaming mate, at least for now anyway...
I would like to say I am the most vocal on here to push the arguement for high/unlimited quotas with low costs, but I'm also realistic in regards to the current commercial enviornment we are operating under...

As for data costs, of course they matter, telecom just like any other ISP is a business and they are there to make money, any way they can cut costs and save money, make more profit, they will attempt to do so...and while you can still download after your speed has being capped, you cannot download anywhere near as much as what you could if you were at full speed...so its not that they are letting you download all you want, its that they are limiting how much you can download within set timeframe, hence restrict thier costs for data...

If they were to let you download at full speed as opposed to throtteled (56kb after your exceeded your cap) you could download far greater amounts then you could otherwise, hence costing them far greater amounts in data charges.




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  Reply # 48959 18-Oct-2006 10:26
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I heard/read somewhere international data cost $1 or $2 a GB to get here, does anyone know if there's any truth to that? And is it geographically priced ie aussie data vs US data? 

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equotis: I heard/read somewhere international data cost $1 or $2 a GB to get here, does anyone know if there's any truth to that? And is it geographically priced ie aussie data vs US data? 

Surley not, otherwise it could very easily be a loss making business with downloaders like me.
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equotis: I heard/read somewhere international data cost $1 or $2 a GB to get here, does anyone know if there's any truth to that? And is it geographically priced ie aussie data vs US data? 


I read that too, but I can't remember where.  Yell

Slightly OT: I wonder if the new cable that Telstra are proposing the construction of will make the owners of the SCC lower their prices, and if it does get built, would ISP's here use it instead?




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