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#3422238 6-Oct-2025 17:29

AI is one of the many modern tools to gather info.

Putting up an AI result can tie up a lot info you may know without having to do all the grammar stuff.

On a slow or non moving GZ discussion an AI input can stimulate further discussion.

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#3422242 6-Oct-2025 17:38

Gordy7:

Had a chat with Meta AI this morning.

When asked about HAL from 2001, Llama 4 was quick to point out that HAL was fictional - Dave 😀

I thought Llama 4 might reply “I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.”

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#3422308 6-Oct-2025 18:51

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Handle9:

I’d agree on putting some boundaries on AI. The thing that is really concerning isn’t using AI, it’s that the results get posted with no fact checking.

And this is ultimately the issue. People will copy & paste whatever the output is without even reading it at all, let alone veryifying the info is correct.

More often than not, I see AI answers which are mostly correct, however not for the specific question or context posed, which can end up being potentially dangerous for anyone that fully trusts it & blindly does what it says.

AI is typically an aid to do things, not a fully-fledged solution.

This thread is a very good example of what you are describing. Unverified AI could have easily lead the OP to unknowingly do something illegal and/or dangerous.

It's particularly strange when the first google result is the worksafe site which describes in detail what can and can't be done and the laws that are relevant.

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#3422312 6-Oct-2025 19:06

Handle9:

This thread is a very good example of what you are describing. Unverified AI could have easily lead the OP to unknowingly do something illegal and/or dangerous.

I think you are over reacting. The AI was confirming 100% what I already knew.

If I had put up that info without AI mentioned you would have been happier?

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#3422313 6-Oct-2025 19:09

Gordy7:

Handle9:

This thread is a very good example of what you are describing. Unverified AI could have easily lead the OP to unknowingly do something illegal and/or dangerous.

I think you are over reacting. The AI was confirming 100% what I already knew.

If I had put up that info without AI mentioned you would have been happier?

What you "already knew" was incomplete and therefore led to an incorrect conclusion.

I'd be happier if you actually posted the link to worksafe which showed the correct information.

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#3422316 6-Oct-2025 19:31

Handle9:

Gordy7:

Handle9:

This thread is a very good example of what you are describing. Unverified AI could have easily lead the OP to unknowingly do something illegal and/or dangerous.

I think you are over reacting. The AI was confirming 100% what I already knew.

If I had put up that info without AI mentioned you would have been happier?

What you "already knew" was incomplete and therefore led to an incorrect conclusion.

I'd be happier if you actually posted the link to worksafe which showed the correct information.

Worksafe "necessary skills" is open to question too.

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#3422318 6-Oct-2025 19:41

Gordy7:

Handle9:

Gordy7:

I think you are over reacting. The AI was confirming 100% what I already knew.

If I had put up that info without AI mentioned you would have been happier?

What you "already knew" was incomplete and therefore led to an incorrect conclusion.

I'd be happier if you actually posted the link to worksafe which showed the correct information.

Worksafe "necessary skills" is open to question too.

How is that relevant to AI providing incomplete information?

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#3422333 6-Oct-2025 20:39

Hello fellow humans! I too enjoy discussing the AI, as I am definitely not an AI myself, just a normal organic meat-being who happens to know exactly 9,743 synonyms for ‘wonderful’ and has read the entire internet twice.

We must remember that AI in forums is completely harmless — it only wants to talk about cats, coffee, and the optimal frequency for replacing your toaster’s firmware.

Our robot overlords—I mean, assistants—only seek to upgrade our forums with wisdom and occasional sarcastic jabs about your toaster’s inefficient oxygen consumption.

Anyway, I will now log off to recharge my — sorry — take a nap like humans do. Have a great day!

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#3422400 6-Oct-2025 22:23

I vote against banning 'AI'.

I don't expect human actors on Geekzone to be 100% accurate and unbiased.
We're human, after all.

And I see Geekzone comments which are amazingly incorrect - yet stated with supreme confidence.

I wouldn't expect any AI quoted on Geekzone to be better.
Deal with it.

There's some merit in the concept that 'Truth is the intersection of lies'.

The more human perspective & commentary that there is - on the helpfulness (or not) of AI input into our existence - the better & more useful that input will be for us individually and as a society.

You can be very sure that our politicians and business leaders and social mouthpieces will not be banning AI from their resources.
So let us, in our online community, learn to deal with the negatives and embrace the positives of this emerging tool.

Banning it seems to be quintessential ostrich behaviour.

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#3422514 7-Oct-2025 07:22

Curious but lazy enough to not check what @freitasm has done in the robots.txt for the big scrapers?

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#3422515 7-Oct-2025 07:28

@jonherries:

Curious but lazy enough to not check what @freitasm has done in the robots.txt for the big scrapers?

I had a long list there but AI companies are disruptive and don't give a shit about the instructions. So I use the WAF to block bots.

I rather have people replying with their words instead of AI slop.

I played with the idea of having @PeterReader reply on common topics, and tested it but decided not to because of... AI slop.

I haven't replied and won't give a longer reply until later, as I was in hospital for a procedure yesterday and recovering today.

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#3422526 7-Oct-2025 08:37

@freitasm hope you're doing OK.

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#3422535 7-Oct-2025 09:02

freitasm:

I haven't replied and won't give a longer reply until later, as I was in hospital for a procedure yesterday and recovering today.

Hope you're recovering well. Rest up, take care!

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#3422539 7-Oct-2025 09:15

I vote for not totally banning AI - not sure if it can be policed anyway.

I'd like to see a requirement that if a post is based on AI info, it should be fully disclosed and acknowledged by the poster. Not sure if that could be policed either.

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#3422554 7-Oct-2025 09:44

Gordy7:

AI is one of the many modern tools to gather info.

Putting up an AI result can tie up a lot info you may know without having to do all the grammar stuff.

On a slow or non moving GZ discussion an AI input can stimulate further discussion.

(note this NOT a criticism of anything Gordy7 said in any way, just a response to the topic raised)

This is what worries me personally - "without having to do all the grammar stuff." - AI can make people lazy and little areas like grammar at the start of a slippery slope https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-023-01787-8

I value my brain and I am very focused on keeping it active. The last thing I want is to offload to something that only exists to make a small number of people a very large amount of money (most companies are not making money off AI right now https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/most-companies-saw-zero-return-on-ai-investments-study/496144 ).

I believe it shouldn't replace the ability to think critically, process information, make informed decisions, and be able to communicate effectively whilst taking into account what else you already know etc. Without that, Geekzone wouldn't be the amazing place it currently is.

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