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Tom_Rush

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#25732 30-Aug-2008 12:53
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I'm using Opera 9.5 web browser.

This is my second attempt to submit a comment. As the textual layout is a bit hard to follow.

I guess if I can't submit a comment using Opera then my attempts are futile. Sort of like a failsafe.

I suspect Geekzone would prefer I stuck to Microsoft approved browsers. Maybe IE7 *sigh* :-)

Hay, what about a W3C makover for Geekzone. 

Approx. 3% (and increasing) of your clients would really thank you.

So.... I guess that's not going to fly... pity though.

 

Update:

I see Geekzone admins have genuinely attempted to address Opera issues in the past which is commendable.

So I'll attempt to address the issues without my tongue in cheek.

I note some of the IMG tags have source URI which use Microsoft directory structures instead of the 'standard' W3C directory structure.

i.e. src="\src\src\img.gif"   where is should be src="/src/src/img.gif" 

I am using Opera 9.52 on WinXP  User-Agent: Opera/9.52 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) as noted in Opera about.

As I see the Geekzone web site there are no images displayed on the page.

This may be corrected by identifying the Opera browser in IE compatibility mode.

However this should not be seen as a fix for poor coding.

I can supply any information you might like right down to declared Doctypes and not using language=javascript1.1 attributes.

By installing a default Opera 9.52 on winXP you may see a similar layout as that I am see.

Hope I'm helping and not hindering,

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  #160873 30-Aug-2008 13:16
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Sorry? I do not understand your rant, when you have not tried to help us fix your problem.

How about you provide us with some screen shots of the problem you are having? Aswell as the o/s you are using. If you help us, then maybe we can help you.

I for one always use FF here, aswell as IE.


Can you please tell me why you think we want you to use IE7, or any other MS browser, and why you think that
that's not going to fly
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#160877 30-Aug-2008 13:23
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I never had a problem with Opera. And no, we don't force anyone to use any specific browser. 

 

Actually Opera corresponds to 2.87% of the access to Geekzone. Internet Explorer is used 51.13% and Firefox is used 40.07%. So you see we don't force anything really.

 

And I am posting this with Opera 9.52 and found no problems...

 

 





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  #160880 30-Aug-2008 13:50
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Cool, my rants aside.

I'll attempt to focus on the issuses I'm experencing with Opera at this time.
It seems to be the lack of any images on the web page.
Checking the properties of some of those images the HTML appears to be correct, however some URL sourses look a bit odd.
I'll look at it a bit more.

Although my configuration of Opera 9.52 may be stumbling on URLs noted in the properties as:

http://www.geekz1.com/images//ico2.gif

Note the use of the second // in the URL

But if others can veiw these images in Oper 9.52 without any problems...

If you have something you'd like me to check..

Or if you'd prefer I can continue this via email thus saving any mis-information I might be writing in a public place. ( never a good idea)

Mind you the 3% Opera use was a good guessimate though.

Tom





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  #160882 30-Aug-2008 13:56
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Interesting because

1.On the source HTML it is img src='images/ico10.gif' not the full URL
2.Opera shows the property as http://www.geekz1.com/images//ico10.gif but IE and FF both show https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/images/ico10.gif so obviously Opera is adding something there - certainly not us...




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  #160883 30-Aug-2008 14:11
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The only issues I have noticed with Opera (Linux) are:
1. The recursive left side ad area issue which I have documented previously.
2. Oddness in using the WYSIWYG editor when hitting enter.




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  #160888 30-Aug-2008 14:59
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I normally use FF and have never had any problems with Geekzone.

I too see FF correctly displaying images as:

https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/images/star.gif

I use Opera as the final arbitrator of any code as it is the 'strictist' of the day to day browsers
On Geekzone the Opera error console doesn't report anything of significance.

It's a bit odd that Opera would be adding anything, more likely it's missing something or disengaging at some point where it feels security levels have been reached.

I'll check my security levels and see if I've restricted cross domain configuration information or some such config gubbins.

Unless I've tinkered in the past I believe it should be default.

Are 'you' (Geekzone admins) seeing something similar or am I still the odd ball out here?

I just check in the K-Meleon browser and it's fine with no problems so it doesn't appear to be a less combine browser issue.

It does look more like I've jumped the gun and may have a configuration issue with the Opera browser I'm using.
Although that said, I'm not having any issues with other web sites.... odd.

I guess I should get giggy and go and check using Opera 9.51 (One version down) on another winXP box....just in case.

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  #160902 30-Aug-2008 16:38
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I'm using Opera 9.52 on Win2K and don't see the problems that the OP has.  The only issue I have is that when I hit back  it takes about 3~4 attempts to get there as it seems to load  a bit of the page at a time.  Tried this on a PC with Win XP and the same problem




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#160905 30-Aug-2008 16:52
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Opera 9.51 on WinXP. (also test on Opera 9.52 on winXP on another PC with same results)

The flash displays, but not the images (gif etc).

But here's the thing. If I'm the only one with the problem.. It's not really a problem.

If it works for everyone else, then in the wider sense there is no problem.

It works fine for me in IE, Firefox, K-Meleon and Safari 3.1.2.... on winXP

So if you guys are happy, I'm happy.

Opera 9.52 on WinXP

Now using the same browser but just opening a new tab. I visit another site, which has CSS background images, HTML images and Javascript generated images and it's fine.  Really odd.

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  #160907 30-Aug-2008 17:00
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I also have the double slash in the image URL, but it loads OK.  Are you running through a proxy, or firewall or something, perhaps FF etc canonicalize the bogus URL first before sending it through and Opera doesn't.




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#160908 30-Aug-2008 17:04
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AS I said, I don't know where the bogus URL is coming from, since it's not coded like this. Perhaps Opera doesn't like the 301 Permanent Redirect the IIS server issues when it hits https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/images and it's redirected to http://www.geekz1.com/images?

Either way it works for me on Opera 9.52 and wored before on previous versions.

I suspect of a transparent proxy perhaps, that doesn't like the 301 Permanent Redirect response from the server?





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  #160909 30-Aug-2008 17:05
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Tom_Rush, it seems to me as if you may have CSS support turned off?

That screenshot shows the site without any styles - notice the default font is being used as well as default link colours etc.

Perhaps a Personal or Security setting?

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  #160910 30-Aug-2008 17:06
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Hmm, looks like the actual URL to the logo must comes from a redirect


boffin@mortimer:/tmp$ wget https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/images/geekzone-new-logo.gif
--17:07:34--  https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/images/geekzone-new-logo.gif
           => `geekzone-new-logo.gif'
Resolving www.geekzone.co.nz... 210.48.73.74
Connecting to www.geekzone.co.nz|210.48.73.74|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: http://www.geekz1.com/images//geekzone-new-logo.gif
[following]
--17:07:34--  http://www.geekz1.com/images//geekzone-new-logo.gif
           => `geekzone-new-logo.gif'
Resolving www.geekz1.com... 208.109.53.38
Connecting to www.geekz1.com|208.109.53.38|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1,419 (1.4K) [image/gif]

100%[======================================================================================================>] 1,419         --.--K/s            

17:07:36 (186.58 MB/s) - `geekzone-new-logo.gif' saved [1419/1419]





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#160911 30-Aug-2008 17:10
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I have changed the redirect on IIS. How is it now?

Clear your cache please and reload the page. The double backslash is gone for me now. Certainly Opera is not filtering the additional backslash but I've changed it on the server.




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  #160916 30-Aug-2008 17:41
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Dudes and Dudettes,

As you can see from my second snap shot, I have CSS and images in general enabled.

I use HTTP 301 redirects and etc in my own sites and have no problems with them using the same Opera 9.52 browser.
I also use 304 not modified on my site (etags and all that jazz), which can some times result in a whole page not being displayed but not all images, that would be too picky.

I use Zone Alarm on my PCs and thought about that and turned if off, but it made no difference.

I'm not using any Proxies, just dialup V90 via iHug (Vodafone)

Why would this only be happen on the geekzone site when other sites display images just fine in Opera 9.52 on winXP?
Remembering that Geekzone works fine for me in all other browsers.

You can block images from sites, but I've definitely not done that with Geekzone.


Re: freitasm - I have changed the redirect on IIS. How is it now?

I have cleared the cache and reload the Geekzone page and still have no images (gif etc).

****EXCEPT****

I do get the images that have been attached to the comments, both mine and those of sleemanj
However these are the only (png,jpg,gif) images I see. No comment Icons or supporting images.

Even attempting to reload a given image doesn't seem to display it, just get the alt text.

Dudes, I've become a problem child...

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