Less click throughs to Geekzone for sure.

yitz:

 

The LFCs have piloted "Street in a Week" installs before, so not a process that needs to be reinvented from scratch, won't be too hard to hire people to do the work at the moment. 

 

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=39&topicid=208628 

 

In some cases the 'street in a week' approach was already done in HFC neighbourhoods. My grandparents had an HFC connection, and no intention of shifting, but Chorus still proactively installed an ONT without an active service. In houses like that, the process should be pretty smooth (unplug from CNT, plug into ONT, remove all the HFC-related gear).

Simple if the ONT is in the same location within the house as the HFC gear.  Which may or may not be the case.

All quiet, still, here ... Wellington.

Rickles:

 

All quiet, still, here ... Wellington.

 

richms:

 

I'm wondering if the pole and fibre part of the plant would be worth anything to enable or TFF to compete with chorus

 

I am looking at a vodafone fiber map I have and its all 24F and 8F cables around the hutt valley. Its possibly 5 years out of date and I would expect most of the cabinets are now fed using chorus fiber. 
Likely it would be redundant as they would need to replace the coax lines with microduct anyway so might as well blow a new backhaul network though those same ducts. 

I think even more interesting would be the ducts. Clear / TelstraClear ran boatloads of copper around CBDs and so I reckon the ducts would be interesting to see. 

Aucklandjafa:

 

Does everyone remember when TC said to govt to skip UFC in Wellington and Chch and recommend using HFC instead? What an absolute nightmare that would have been!

 

Not really lol
The australians are doing it and claim it "works"

raytaylor:

 

Aucklandjafa:

 

Does everyone remember when TC said to govt to skip UFC in Wellington and Chch and recommend using HFC instead? What an absolute nightmare that would have been!

 

 

Not really lol
The australians are doing it and claim it "works"

 

"works" is that an ozzy term like "arvo" or "servo" :) 

in August 2025, 25% of NBN connections were less than 25Mbs, down from 26% a year earlier...

https://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/about-nbn-co/updates/dashboard-august-2025 

nickb800:

 

On a different note - if they abandon the old cables in the ground, I wonder if that makes them fair game for scrapping? Not that they would have a high value, with a lot of insulation and steel, and not a lot of copper.

 

They will need to check the district plan rules. 
Most district plans require telecommunications lines that are no longer in use to be removed. 

wellygary:

 

"works" is that an ozzy term like "arvo" or "servo" :) 

 

 

 

in August 2025, 25% of NBN connections were less than 25Mbs, down from 26% a year earlier...

 

https://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/about-nbn-co/updates/dashboard-august-2025

 

There will always be some people that buy the cheapest available. What they should publish is how many people can only get those crap speeds. The upload on the HFC is a joke which is why they cripple their fibre to the same speeds so that they can say its an equivilant product. 

quickymart:

 

I have a feeling Chorus can't use another company's conduit to install fibre cables, unless it's owned by the council or something.

 

My understanding is that they can use another conduit, but they have to use their own fiber inside that conduit. 
The reason being that it needs to meet the UFB technical specifications for the basic regulated service offerings 

raytaylor:

 

Aucklandjafa:

 

Does everyone remember when TC said to govt to skip UFC in Wellington and Chch and recommend using HFC instead? What an absolute nightmare that would have been!

 

Not really lol
The australians are doing it and claim it "works"

The claim that it "works" is a politically-influenced Big Fat Aussie Exaggeration.

I am currently staying in a very expensive Lower North Shore Sydney home:

with good Wi-Fi that feeds into an HFC uplink - part of the notorious NBN - that gives about 40/20 Mbits at non-busy times of the day and significantly less in the evenings. The people who live in the house opposite have a Starlink antenna, so they must think that Starlink speeds are well worth the expense. This isn't the kind of remote outback locality that Starlink was supposed to service, but a 'dress circle' suburb with extensive sea views and seven- to eight-figure price tags.

NBN Fibre to the Cabinet
Bah, humbug!
😠

Rickles:

 

Anyone hazard a guess as to the number of HFC customers/users?

 

Numbers from about 2 years ago

In Upper hutt 

Suburb Total number of active connections all types incl wireless, dsl and UFB | Percentage of those connections on HFC

Pinehaven 717 | 15.8% 
Silverstream 1320 | 16.6% 
Heretaunga 966 | 14.6% 
Trentham South 1333 | 2.7% 
Trentham North 1308 | 12.1%
Brentwood 841 | 14.3%
Poets Block 935 | 15.7% 
Elderslea 1237 | 17.8%
Wallaceville 965 | 14.2%
Ebdentown 1016 | 16.8%
Maidstone CBD 420 | 3.6%
Clouston Park 873 | 14.3%
Maoribank 1204 | 14.6%
Birchville 1362  | 11.1%

So its safe to assume they have about 12% of the market in those areas. 

In upperhutt that would only be about 2000 connections and they likely need to pay at least 4 salaries to maintain that network from the revenue - and that revenue would be budgeted at wholesale rates, not retail rates. 
The fees to the power lines company will be huge too. I can totally understand why its not economically feasible to continue running it. 

You could probably assume about 98% of dwellings in the wellington, hutt valley, porirua and kapiti areas have connections and about 12% are HFC. 

netspanner:

 

I have not had any notification so far in Christchurch. 

 

I expect that the shutdown will be staged over a year or two. 

@raytaylor

Do you think one.nz once they convert their mobile network to 5G stand alone are going to push fixed wireless access as they will have a lot more radio spectrum once GSM and 3G is shut down around Christmas. They want to shut down some HFC customers  by 8 December this year. Obviously shut down in stages.