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#157097 19-Nov-2014 14:39
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Outrageous! I'm paying for 100Mbit and I get 130Mbit! What gives???





Just kidding. Mildly surprised to hook up my ethernet to the laptop with the Gbit connection and find out the speeds are way in excess of my stated line speed. :) This is in Kapiti.

I know ChCh has 130, but not Wellington/Kapiti. Anyone else around here getting that kind of speed? Through gigabit ethernet, of course. :)

And if this is, like, related to our service upgrades, they hey VF people, can you tell me if I can expect to get more upload soon too?

Edit: top one is the VF server, second is the Spark server.

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  #1179585 19-Nov-2014 14:43
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I love the fact Peter Reader turned up for this post.




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  #1179586 19-Nov-2014 14:44
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Outrageous! How dare they!

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  #1179588 19-Nov-2014 14:47
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We were actually on 130/10 in Wellington but I see they're no longer offering it. Perhaps it's a lucky dip based on line quality for different areas?



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  #1179590 19-Nov-2014 14:52
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kngjse: We were actually on 130/10 in Wellington but I see they're no longer offering it. Perhaps it's a lucky dip based on line quality for different areas?


We were also on 130/10 cable in Wellington from January 2014.



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  #1179610 19-Nov-2014 15:01
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Do you still have 130/10 in Welly?

I actually noticed the other day when I was getting the Fedora nightlies that rtorrent on the server was reporting 12MB/s but I put it down to maths errors.

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  #1179624 19-Nov-2014 15:08
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How can they do this. I will be writing a formal complaint to Russell Stanners.

 
 
 
 

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  #1179665 19-Nov-2014 15:56
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130Mbps plans have been around for a long time - they have however been downgraded to 100Mbps not too long ago, presumably due to the fact DOCSIS has been crippled by unlimited plans. It seems Vodafone didn't realise the reason the US has moved away from unlimited plans in a big way is because it can so easily cripple a DOCSIS network with it's shared bandwidth.




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  #1179668 19-Nov-2014 16:06
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ckc: Do you still have 130/10 in Welly?


I was in Wellington on a 100/10 VF cable plan, and was (?experimentally) upgraded to 130/10 early this year (at no additional cost).
TTBOMK the 130/10 speed was never advertised.
Got true 130/10 local speeds.
I downgraded to 50/2 several months ago because it was cheaper.
Hopefully some new VF cable plans will come out in late 2014/early 2015, and I will consider upgrading then - largely for the improved upload speeds.




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  #1179709 19-Nov-2014 16:41
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sbiddle: 130Mbps plans have been around for a long time - they have however been downgraded to 100Mbps not too long ago, presumably due to the fact DOCSIS has been crippled by unlimited plans. It seems Vodafone didn't realise the reason the US has moved away from unlimited plans in a big way is because it can so easily cripple a DOCSIS network with it's shared bandwidth.





Or to be consistant with fibre plans?

They're going to start selling higher download speeds soon, after these upgrades are complete if they are not complete already.

It only costs $10 extra to upgrade to 100 from 50 where as 130 used to cost more

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  #1179713 19-Nov-2014 16:45
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sbiddle: 130Mbps plans have been around for a long time - they have however been downgraded to 100Mbps not too long ago, presumably due to the fact DOCSIS has been crippled by unlimited plans. It seems Vodafone didn't realise the reason the US has moved away from unlimited plans in a big way is because it can so easily cripple a DOCSIS network with it's shared bandwidth.





I would accept that explanation for US bandwidth caps, except they're not just limited to cable companies. And most European cable companies don't have bandwidth caps (although they do have fair use and traffic management policies).

I would put forward that the most obvious reason for the adoption of bandwidth caps by American ISPs is greed, strangling the high paying user who uses resources while extorting the low paying user who doesn't use them. If the debate over Net Neutrality has demonstrated anything, it's that the rampant self-interest of the major communications companies over there means they'll take any restrictive action to screw over their customers for the sake of shareholders.

It's nice to blame DOCSIS, but if everyone's doing it (while Virgin in the UK are looking at rolling out 1000/100 connections) then the problem must be elsewhere.

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  #1179718 19-Nov-2014 16:49
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ckc:
It's nice to blame DOCSIS, but if everyone's doing it (while Virgin in the UK are looking at rolling out 1000/100 connections) then the problem must be elsewhere.


DOCSIS is the problem - but like anything problems can be fixed if you want to spend money fixing things which is what Vodafone are having to do.

1000Mbps is easy if your node sized are small enough, if you make nodes smaller you need more CTMSs in the network.



 
 
 

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  #1179728 19-Nov-2014 16:58
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If DOCSIS is really the problem, then why are companies that don't use it (AT&T U-Verse, Verizon FiOS) pioneering bandwidth caps and usage restrictions?

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  #1179737 19-Nov-2014 17:18
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Is no data caps really an issue? The majority of people on unlimited plans probably actually only use around 100gb or less. People just like the idea of knowing they're unlimited

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  #1179751 19-Nov-2014 17:58
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Don't worry about your too fast connection. JohnR will put a patch through tonight and cap it at 130kbps for you :)




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  #1179762 19-Nov-2014 18:00
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We also get more than the plan we are on.
Supposed to be 100/50 but get slightly more than that. :)
I agree with the data caps, we've just recently been upgraded from 500GB to 2.5TB and we have only used about 220GB this month with 5 days to left.
Nice to know that if we did need the data it is there to be used.




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