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# 18491 12-Jan-2008 15:17
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hey ppl,

I am moving flat next weekend and am looking to get internet and broadband and phone for under $60 bucks, i currently am on telstra clear cable 10mb/s with 20gb cap. but am moving in with my girlfriend so only be two of us instead of 5 ppl.
I like the sound of xnet and always hear good things about it.

I looked at the website and was like sweet ill get the stream plan, unlimited cap as not sure how much will use but prob no more than  3 GB a month, also thought i would add in VFX so dont have to get a phone line with telecom, therefore saving heaps.

Just now rung up to enquire about it, the xnet rep said that if you arent on xnet fusion and you want vfx you still need a telecom line......WTF whats the point of having vobb if you still have a stupid telecom line?????

Anyone explain, the chick didnt seem very knowlegable about the whole thing.

ps how long does it take to get it all up and going after you ring up and apply


cheers guys

conor

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  # 104396 12-Jan-2008 15:24
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Are you moving to an area that has cable? If so why not stay with TelstraClear and simply add a VFX VoIP phone line on top? It's only $49.95 for the 10GB TCL plan and you can then get a VFX VoIP phoneline for $11.25 per month.

This works out cheaper than the Fusion plan which doesn't require a Telecom phoneline and is the cheapest way to get broadband and a phone in NZ.





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  # 104398 12-Jan-2008 15:29
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Yeah moving to somewhere which can have cable....on the xnet website it says you cant use vfx on telstra clear cable, so guessing you cant???

why do they require you to have a telecom line unless on fusion??
Thought that this would be perfect but ....no

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  # 104404 12-Jan-2008 15:51
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There are plenty of cable user's who do not have a traditional phone line. Where does it state that you can not use VFX with cable? (as opposed to it just not being listed)

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  # 104405 12-Jan-2008 15:55
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conork: Yeah moving to somewhere which can have cable....on the xnet website it says you cant use vfx on telstra clear cable, so guessing you cant???

why do they require you to have a telecom line unless on fusion??
Thought that this would be perfect but ....no

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Are you sure it didn't say you can't get Xnet (internet) on TCL? There are plenty of people using VFX (VoIP) on TCL including myself. You can't get an ADSL connection if you're a TelstraClear InHome customer, only cable internet.

Up until the past month or so having a Telecom phoneline was a requirement to get an ADSL connection from any ISP. Since Naked ADSL was launched you are now able to get an internet connection without requiring a Telecom phoneline. Fusion is Xnet's Naked ADSL plan that allows this, every other plan they sell requires a Telecom phoneline.

If you want to have an internet connection without a phoneline your options are Xnet fusion or staying with TCL cable. I've listed the price above to use TCL, this gives you 10GB per month. If you sign up with Fusion it will cost you $69.95 per month for internet and voip but this excludes data which is charged at $1 per GB so it would cost you roughly $79.95 on Xnet vs $61.20 on TCL for 10GB of traffic.

You just need to be aware that VoIP traffic using TCL cable is deduced from your 10GB whereas on Xnet Fusion it's zero rated and not charged for. You will use roughly 30MB - 60MB per hour for a phonecall depending on the codec you are using for your voice connection.


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  # 104406 12-Jan-2008 16:14
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conork: Yeah moving to somewhere which can have cable....on the xnet website it says you cant use vfx on telstra clear cable, so guessing you cant???

why do they require you to have a telecom line unless on fusion??
Thought that this would be perfect but ....no

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Q. Do I need WorldxChange's Broadband to connect?

A. VFX will operate with any broadband connection

I might add that I think the minimum requirement for VFX is about 30kbps so whether you go Naked DSL or stick with TCL as long as your broadband connection is above 30kbps and the device you get for VFX can contact Xnets server as it says in the question and answer above any broadband connection will work with VFX

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  # 104407 12-Jan-2008 16:14
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Hello, conork.

I think that there may be a bit of a misunderstanding about about the broadband plans work. With Xnet DSL, whether you choose Flood, River, Stream, or Fusion - they all use copper cabling in some form or another.

There are two sets of plans:
  • DSL over landlines with voice service - these are your traditional plans, where you have a standard PSTN landline and you pay for internet service. This is what most people have at the moment. The broadband plan components may appear to be cheaper because you are also paying for a landline which covers the copper to your house.
  • 'Naked DSL' - these are the more recent plans where you no longer need the voice component to obtain DSL. Since you don't have voice services provided over the copper, you pay a slightly higher amount compared to the other plans, however typically are less than obtaining a landline with voice service + broadband.
For the naked DSL, you are still using the copper so the costs of maintaining it are still there, its just you are no longer paying for PSTN voice service from Telecom, Telstraclear, Ihug, Orcon etc... in most situations you will have some degree of savings (depending on usage and toll calling patterns), in some situations it may cost more.

This is not WorldxChange or Telecom trying to rip you off. This is just confusion about the difference in methods of delivering DSL to you.




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# 104408 12-Jan-2008 16:20
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Awesome cheers guys,

That cleared things up alot!!!

Think will just stick with TCL cable and get VFX

Thanks for your help

conor

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