Following from the question, I'm asking how long it takes to get onto VF Live! from their handsets (over GPRS, not 3G).
I remember about a few years ago I set up my mum's parallel-imported Nokia 3200 and it connected in less than 30 sec, but my sister's new Vodafone-branded LG KP202 takes around 2 minutes to get onto the Live! service, and now my mum's one is also slow too.
Has GPRS on Vodafone degraded so much that even a simple service like Live! can't load fast enough?