Using your own router on Vodafone Fibre X in WLG

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bazbear

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#205145 31-Oct-2016 15:58

Hi,

Does anyone know why you can't use your own router on Vodafone's Fibre X network and know if you can make your own router to work?

I have an Asus RT-AC56U and have tried but it won't pick up an IP via DHCP as know you don't have a static IP via standard Cable on Vodafone.

The Huawei HG659 router are just plain awful.

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#1661525 31-Oct-2016 16:10

vlan 10, dhcp.

has been designed to replicate standard setup for UFB.

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#1661527 31-Oct-2016 16:11

you can, its just not supported so if you do it, and there is an issue you will have to connect the vodafone supplied one to do any testing etc with the CSR

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#1661531 31-Oct-2016 16:13

As is mentioned in the main FibreX thread, the new services behave just like UFB. That is, they use VLANs. That means that the 802.1Q priority bits are actioned (like UFB). But it also means that you need a router that can support VLANs on its WAN port. Specifically, it needs to talk on VLAN 10. If you DHCP on VLAN 10, you'll get a lease. But untagged frames are just dropped.

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#1661562 31-Oct-2016 16:49

yup, thanks. Vodafone finally replied to me too and said the same thing.

demdix

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#1661836 1-Nov-2016 08:13

Anyone tried with OpenWRT and a Linksys WRT1900AC? I have tagged the packets with the correct VLAN and I am using DHCP but I don't get an address. Must be a bug with that particular combo... I am using the latest stable version of Chaos Calmer (15.05.1)

I will Wireshark it tonight and see if there is anything interesting in the capture.

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#1661847 1-Nov-2016 09:01

Is anyone using an EdgeRouter Lite on FibreX?

I have been using an ERL for several years on HFC cable 100/10Mbps (fixed IP), with excellent results.
Now I'm on "FibreX200".
I get full line speeds with the supplied HG659, but slower speeds (typically below 150Mbps) with the ERL - this is completely unexpected.

I'm using DHCP with VLAN 10, with the IPv4 default gateway and DNS server addresses copied from the HG659.

Here are my ethernet port settings:

eth0:

eth1.10 (VLAN):

eth1:

Any obvious bloopers?

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#1661901 1-Nov-2016 10:23

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Any obvious bloopers?

Apart from the following no.

Hardware offloading on the vlan tagging by chance?

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#1662040 1-Nov-2016 14:07

Interesting, i seem to get around 800Mbit with the Vodafone supplied router and 400Mbit with my R8000

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#1662060 1-Nov-2016 15:00

That is interesting. I've personally tested an R8000 on a 1000/500 PPPoE UFB connection. Handled around 930/450Mbps on speedtest.net, nperf and iperf.

Edit: Running the stock Netgear firmware. No VLAN tagging involved.

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#1662367 1-Nov-2016 22:54

So every time I start a torrent it will climb up to about 60-70MB/s and then my internet completely dies, requiring a router restart to fix it.

Turns out the HG659 was completely freezing up a minute or two after the torrent started. All the lights looked normal except the LAN activity LEDs weren't flashing and I'm unable to load the login page to configure it.

Just wondering if I should get a new router (I kinda want one anyway), it would seem as though it can't quite handle the jandal when it comes to torrenting at very high speeds.

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#1662391 2-Nov-2016 05:24

how many conections do you have going with your torrents? try reducing this and see if its better? you could just be hammering the router and it doesnt like it

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#1662487 2-Nov-2016 09:42

Jase2985:

how many conections do you have going with your torrents? try reducing this and see if its better? you could just be hammering the router and it doesnt like it

Just at the default 50, I tried lowering it to 20 but it still does it.

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#1662642 2-Nov-2016 13:02

I've just posted on the big thread, but if anyone is only monitoring this one, I'm getting regular ~850 Mbps on a Netgear Nighthawk R7000 running Advanced Tomato with CTF enabled. 5 minutes earlier on the HG659 was more like ~600, though I've also had the HG659 up over 900. My results are all over the place so I think the severs are under a bit of pressure.

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#1663542 4-Nov-2016 08:32

Does it need PPPoE set up as well in order to use your own router?

I set up my Edgerouter Lite and managed to get it to pull down an IP to VLAN 10 but still not working.

Rather than just add the new interface maybe I should have re-run the setup wizard?

Also, how does the default gateway get set with a dhcp set IP address?

I have a static IP being sorted for me today so that particular problem will go away anyway.

For anyone who doesn't know already you can get a static IP for $5 extra a month - you dont need to buy the whole $20 'Internet Pack'.

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#1663549 4-Nov-2016 08:44

Riposte:

Does it need PPPoE set up as well in order to use your own router?

I set up my Edgerouter Lite and managed to get it to pull down an IP to VLAN 10 but still not working.

Rather than just add the new interface maybe I should have re-run the setup wizard?

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I have exactly the same problem - I've tried and failed with an ERL-3 and with an ER-X, with and without the setup wizard, with latest firmware.

I get an IP to VLAN 10, but still not working ...

Is this a firewall problem?

The ERL-3 and the ER-X both worked perfectly with the old fixed IP HFC cable.

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