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Topic # 217741 10-Jul-2017 18:54
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Currently pricing various ISPs as my current 12 month contract is coming up with my current ISP. I am already on a UFB fibre 100/20 plan. I noticed with Vodafone pricing, that it says I would need to sign up to a Fibre X plan, which is about $90 per month. I am guessing this is using the old Saturn fibre cable. Although it doesn't give me the option to use UFB, it looks like this would be an extra $10 per month. If I did go for the Fibre X option, does this mean that Vodafone would need to dig up my garden to install the Fibre X line? I am guessing they won't be able to hook it up to the UFB line. Just seems really backwards and inefficient, but potentially means I get it cheaper and faster than their UFB option.


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  Reply # 1819053 10-Jul-2017 18:56
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I doubt they'd hook you up to HFC if you have fibre already.


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  Reply # 1819054 10-Jul-2017 18:58
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Fibre X is a different product to UFB. Its a different network, owned and operated by Vodafone. 

 

I would continue to use a UFB product if possible.






 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1819069 10-Jul-2017 19:12
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mattwnz:

Currently pricing various ISPs as my current 12 month contract is coming up with my current ISP. I am already on a UFB fibre 100/20 plan. I noticed with Vodafone pricing, that it says I would need to sign up to a Fibre X plan, which is about $90 per month. I am guessing this is using the old Saturn fibre cable. Although it doesn't give me the option to use UFB, it looks like this would be an extra $10 per month. If I did go for the Fibre X option, does this mean that Vodafone would need to dig up my garden to install the Fibre X line? I am guessing they won't be able to hook it up to the UFB line. Just seems really backwards and inefficient, but potentially means I get it cheaper and faster than their UFB option.



The network is installled, so the marginal costs of being competitive on fibre are good.

Why not call and see what they will do?

The default is to use cable, but I doubt they will spend $750 on a roll and connect.




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  Reply # 1819072 10-Jul-2017 19:21
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darylblake:

 

Fibre X is a different product to UFB. Its a different network, owned and operated by Vodafone. 

 

I would continue to use a UFB product if possible.

 

 

 

 

I would but

 

 

 

(a) it doesn't give me the option in their website, only Fibre X

 

(b) Fibre X is 200Mbps + base, where their UFB one is 100Mbps

 

(c) Fibre X 200Mbps is $10 cheaper than what they charge for UFB 100Mbps

 

 

 

Otherwise they would need to offer me the same benefits as Fibre X, with my UFB connection. Otherwise my only option is to just use another ISP, as I don't want them ripping up my garden when I already have UFB, as that would just be stupid.  


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  Reply # 1819082 10-Jul-2017 19:35
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I'd also read about congestion issues on FibreX


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  Reply # 1819130 10-Jul-2017 19:49
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mattwnz:

 

darylblake:

 

Fibre X is a different product to UFB. Its a different network, owned and operated by Vodafone. 

 

I would continue to use a UFB product if possible.

 

 

I would but

 

(a) it doesn't give me the option in their website, only Fibre X

 

(b) Fibre X is 200Mbps + base, where their UFB one is 100Mbps

 

(c) Fibre X 200Mbps is $10 cheaper than what they charge for UFB 100Mbps

 

Otherwise they would need to offer me the same benefits as Fibre X, with my UFB connection. Otherwise my only option is to just use another ISP, as I don't want them ripping up my garden when I already have UFB.  

 

 

a) Vodafone don't/won't offer you a UFB option if you are in a "cable" area, because they make a higher profit from the cable network, which they own.

 

Just get UFB fibre from another provider.

 

b) & c)

 

I have the misfortune to be on "FibreX" 200/20 Mbps cable.

 

I have used "real fibre" (UFB) in the past at a previous address, but UFB will not be available at my current Wellington address until late 2019.

 

In my experience UFB is vastly superior to cable in all respects, and is well worth the slight extra cost.

 

The "200Mbps" of cable is actually less than 100Mbps - typically 50Mbps or (much) less.

 

With "FibreX" cable you get wonderful-looking speed tests, but poor real-world performance.

 

AVOID FibreX if you have a "real" fibre option. It's not worth the small saving.

 

I will change back to UFB at the earliest opportunity - I don't care what it costs.

 

 





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  Reply # 1819142 10-Jul-2017 19:57
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Yes you can make a request thru the VodafoneNZ retention team to be connected to Fibre UFB in a Cable HFC area

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  Reply # 1819166 10-Jul-2017 20:43
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blakamin:

 

I'd also read about congestion issues on FibreX

 

 

 

 

And it you're into gaming then I'd check what the current ping is on HFC and it you want to go there.

 

 

 

You also need to remember that 200 is PIR not CIR and your constant throughput might not be good depending on how many people on the node in your area.

 

 

 

Given the amount of marketing they've been doing recently, I'd think they'll have been picking up a few more customers again.

 

 

 

Oh, and before anyone just comes and accuses me of being a 'hater'...  I built a wireless network over two suburbs just to avoid that network because it was just so crap.  So far I've invested over $50k just to keep away from it... so ya, take my comments with what ever gran of salt you choose.... I'm not a fan.

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1819172 10-Jul-2017 20:55
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I only mention it because my ex has it and has issues which slow skype and hangout calls with my kids. 

 

I'm personally not fussed if you go fibre X... Just saying I wouldn't.


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  Reply # 1819174 10-Jul-2017 20:57
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Is fibre in the future for you Don? Or are you out of coverage for it?


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  Reply # 1819224 10-Jul-2017 22:02
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quickymart:

 

Is fibre in the future for you Don? Or are you out of coverage for it?

 

 

 

 

I have 12 nice cores of fibre at that site now thanks... and three suburbs covered by a nice little wireless network ;)

 

...I did promise the nice lady I asked for service, 7 years ago that I'd sort out my local community :)

 

 





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Stay on UFB, dose there X network need a new router?  definitely look for another provider - VF NZ retention team are lying, ripe off pricks.


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