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#23646 5-Jul-2008 11:04
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firstly sorry i know there is already a topic but it was closed and i had some questions to raise on this

1. Ive heard xnet is one of few nz ISPs that kick you off for this, is this true? and if so why do you bother as surely if the mpaa was going to go after an ISP in new zealand they would go for a big provider with more money.

2. When i first read a topic on this, someone from xnet said that some future change in law would mean that either all the ISPs would have to do as Xnet do or that Xnet would no longer have to, what happend with this?

The practice used to obtain such data is ilegal and would not hold up in a new zealand court (the country where the aledged crime took place) therefor is meaningless anyway. America is controled by corporate companys fact, some of the biggest been the media groups, there inability to move with the time has left them in a corner defending there out of date buisness model the only way they know how by suing people. Why not grow some balls like the european or asian ISPs  and contemplate what all this snooping is going to do to the future of the internet.

I know people here dont really go along with that shareing is good and will hopefully eventually put an end to the stupidly inflated price of media but i hope you understand for many users they dont feel imoral for stealing from the rich and giving to the poor (themself). Personally if i could download or stream new HD content from the internet for a reasonable price i would be happy to pay.

Lastly i would like to say Xnet are a great ISP, i love only paying for the data i use and the cheap international calling and alround top service. ths been said depending on what the answer to q2 i will be tempted to move  ISPs to one that sopports my views on sharing.

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  #143270 5-Jul-2008 19:57
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people are all up in arms about USA introducing a 3 strikes policy lol we have 2 strikes.

also you realize some New Zealanders have created copyrighted material and could be the very ones pursuing action? they are the ones who could take action and win in New Zealand courts. all an isp would need to provide is a time date and user name. no data would need to be analyzed that would be the job of the honeypot server, you know the one they use to download part/all of the file from you and record your ip and date and time? just a thought.


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  #143287 5-Jul-2008 21:54
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bushed: Lastly i would like to say Xnet are a great ISP, i love only paying for the data i use and the cheap international calling and alround top service. ths been said depending on what the answer to q2 i will be tempted to move  ISPs to one that sopports my views on sharing.

Good luck getting official support from any ISP on illegal file sharing - I think the reason other ISPs aren't bringing this up is more complacency rather than acceptance.

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  #143324 6-Jul-2008 11:03
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It seems that Xnet`s owners have some sort of direct financial incentive to join the anti-piracy mob. Maybe they`re getting payments from the RIAA or whatever they`re called.

I`m not too fussed, there`s very little copyrighted stuff that is worth wasting time on, let alone bandwidth. But I think it`s important to realize that if it were not for global piracy, we would still be playing House of the Dead on our Celeron 300 Mhz and TNT2 video card. And the next-gen Voodoo2 would cost 2000 bucks. Plus, we would still be stuck with dial-up speeds and even more expensive internet. What I`m trying to say is piracy has been the main driving force behind the hardware industry and internet services.

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