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#24183 17-Jul-2008 11:50

Whilst having modem problems this morning I have noticed that I can login to the Red Network with PPPoE.

In fact for some reason, that I cant fathom, i discovered the following:

I can login with my Linksys AM300 in PPPoE but not PPPoA (it was working previously with PPPoA)
I can login with my 302G II with either PPPoE or PPPoA

I rang VF to check if they were now supporting PPPoE - and they said no!!

Anyone else know any different?

-Al

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#148818 17-Jul-2008 12:15

bigal_nz:
Whilst having modem problems this morning I have noticed that I can login to the Red Network with PPPoE.

In fact for some reason, that I cant fathom, i discovered the following:

I can login with my Linksys AM300 in PPPoE but not PPPoA (it was working previously with PPPoA)
I can login with my 302G II with either PPPoE or PPPoA

I rang VF to check if they were now supporting PPPoE - and they said no!!

Anyone else know any different?

-Al

Yes, I have hear from one of there top guys that their Red Network can use PPPoE. This is great, cause you can bridge the connection to another router much easier.

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#148823 17-Jul-2008 12:21

SWEET!!!!

Pity there help are the last to know!!!!

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#148977 17-Jul-2008 20:02

Huawei specialises in IP DSLAMs this means that the backhaul is generally ethernet based and hence why they support PPPoE the reason that telecom DSLAMs used PPPoA is because telecom uses or at least used ATM for the backhaul. i would say the reason PPPoA still works is for legacy compatibility and therefore might have issues with some vendors.

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#149014 17-Jul-2008 21:21

Very informative reply, thanks.

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#149220 18-Jul-2008 17:25

how do you find the red network thing? good service?

im on telecom at the moment and thinking o changing over.

and do they also have the wire and maintenance contract like telecom?

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#149224 18-Jul-2008 17:28

BorDAr: how do you find the red network thing? good service?

im on telecom at the moment and thinking o changing over.

and do they also have the wire and maintenance contract like telecom?

Wiring and Maintenance fee is $2.25 a month on top of the plan price.

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#149258 18-Jul-2008 19:42

cool thanks, i had signed up already. cos i got $30 off each month for signing up or 12 months. and a free modem :)

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#149347 18-Jul-2008 22:45

I am letting my router do all the work and loving it!!! As for VF, well if you call the broadband team on 0800 800215 the wait aint too bad.

I am 800m from exchange and getting 17.5Mb/s down and 1.1Mb/s up.

I have had a few issues with the home line and they quickly diverted my home number to my mobile (i think telecom make you wait 24 hours?)

The broadband CSR's I have spoken to there for the most part are clueless. They didnt even know they could do PPPoE....

So a mixed bag when it comes to service, but I am happy with the product.

-Al

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#149377 19-Jul-2008 03:39

how do i find out where my closest exchange is? i know theyre pretty hush hush about it.

and the wires with the red network, are they still the old copper wires?

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#149379 19-Jul-2008 05:02

BorDAr: how do i find out where my closest exchange is? i know theyre pretty hush hush about it.

and the wires with the red network, are they still the old copper wires?

Yes, the Vodafone gear is in the exchange, utilising the exisiting copper from the exchange to your house.

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#149461 19-Jul-2008 14:44

scottjpalmer:
BorDAr: how do i find out where my closest exchange is? i know theyre pretty hush hush about it.

and the wires with the red network, are they still the old copper wires?

Yes, the Vodafone gear is in the exchange, utilising the exisiting copper from the exchange to your house.

silly question i guess. i was out of the country during the whole LLU so i dont know what happened.

and how do i find out where the closest exchange is to my house?

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#149465 19-Jul-2008 15:00

Here's a good link about PPoE, PPoA and what MTU to use:
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/?tag=ADSL_Theory_PPP

Basically if the backhaul is ATM you're better off using PPoA, if the backhaul is Ethernet you're better off using PPoE.

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#149470 19-Jul-2008 15:12

The ISAMS definately support PPPoE and if you're on the Red network then personally I think it would be better to set it on ethernet framing. That saves a conversion from ATM to ethernet and might lower latency. I'm thinking about gamers in particular.

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#149493 19-Jul-2008 17:03

What are the default settings etc on the new vodafone modems, do they use PPPoE by default or still PPPoA?
i cant see anything on the settings required on the Vodafone website, has anyone else found anything?

it would be interesting if vodafone locked down the new modems to PPPoE that way they couldnt be used on Telecoms network, but then again why would you go back to ADSL v1?

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#149499 19-Jul-2008 17:43

They're set to PPPoA by default since most customers will still be on the telecom network. If you're on an unbundled connection the settings are still the same for PPPoA. So you can set it to PPPoE if you're unbundled. I notice the default route is usually slightly different from the normal one.