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PaulL

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#289767 28-Sep-2021 11:32
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I had Vodafone wireless, which moved to Farmside when Vodafone bought Farmside.  The service is OK, but only just.  We finally have fibre in our street.  The actual laying of fibre finished at the end of June.  I've checked with Chorus (laboriously), and our street was definitely the last in the block laid, and the block is finished.  I knew that already, because I run and I've run up and down all the streets, our street was literally the last cabled.  We had some lockdown in there, but a Chorus guy has been out and tested/commissioned as well.  The fibre is clearly done.

 

The Chorus website says availability from October.  It also says you can order ahead of availability.  I've talked to Farmside, who said I could order the last week of September.  They can't do gigafibre, so agreed I can move back to Vodafone (I'm on a 24 month plan, so I'd have a breakage cost if I go somewhere other than Vodafone).

 

Vodafone said to talk to them last week of September.

 

I ordered my fibre last week (Friday).  Their systems were down, but the guy on chat was very helpful, if quite slow.  Order submitted, agreed that the fibre isn't available right now, but it's a right of way, so it'll take them a few weeks to screw around with talking to neighbours (we're on a right of way), trenching, laying fibre etc.  It'll be available by the time that's done.

 

Yesterday the order was cancelled, with a text message saying fibre isn't available at my premises.

 

Talked to Vodafone again on chat today, the guy says can't be ordered because it's not available at my premises.

 

I'm super frustrated.  We're in a holiday area, and our 4G gets massively overloaded in holiday periods.  It's marginal to work from home on a good day, but it's dreadful as summer comes.  I want to be on fibre before summer.  I don't really see why this is so complex - Chorus say the order can be submitted but Vodafone appear unable to do so.

 

Vodafone have always been fine when running (other than for mobile, which does have rather dreadful rural coverage - I was with Vodafone due to good international roaming plans, but seems like that's not really a thing any more, so I should move to Spark and at least get good customer service and good coverage).  Their support desk has always been hopeless.  This is pretty much par for the course.

 

Is there a way to get this sorted - a Vodafone tech on here who can help or explain - or should I just move to a provider who'll order my fibre with Chorus, and fight Farmside about the plan termination fee on the basis that they simply can't deliver me any useful service?  Or are Chorus incorrect on their website when they say "Coming Oct 21" and "You can order a fibre connection ahead of time with your provider."


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quickymart
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  #2785571 28-Sep-2021 12:04
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You can't place an order until the build is fully completed in your area, not just in your street. They could have 10 more streets they have to do before your portion is completed. Once that's done, away you go. That will be the same no matter who your provider is - technically, it's not available right now.

 

Where does it say on their website you can order ahead of time? I've never heard of that being an option.




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  #2785603 28-Sep-2021 12:48
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This falls within my realm - please PM me the details and I'll take a look.


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  #2785605 28-Sep-2021 12:50
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at the very end of his post it says "You can order a fibre connection ahead of time with your provider."

 

They should just leave that part out imo, sounds like an easy way to create frustration if an RSP don't have good training / processes in place to accomplish this. 




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  #2785639 28-Sep-2021 13:39
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dt:

 

at the very end of his post it says "You can order a fibre connection ahead of time with your provider."

 

They should just leave that part out imo, sounds like an easy way to create frustration if an RSP don't have good training / processes in place to accomplish this. 

 

 

I saw that, I was just curious where it says this on the Chorus website as he mentioned. Also, I agree with you - if so, recipe for confusion.


PaulL

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  #2785647 28-Sep-2021 14:01
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@Quickymart, I covered both of those points in my original post.

 

I put the wording from the Chorus website in quotes, indicating (at least to me) that it was a quote.  It's on the front page of the broadband checker, which you get to when you just go to chorus.co.nz and put in your address.  https://www.chorus.co.nz/tools-support/broadband-tools/broadband-checker

 

Relevant screenshot below.

 

 

In terms of the fibre rollout, I'm aware that they have blocks they do in one go.  We're in a relatively small township in a rural area.  It's quite obvious what the boundaries are.  I run, so I run up and down all those streets.  I watched the guys push the conduit through street by street, and talked to them each day.  Our street was clearly last.  I talked to them when they finished our street, and said "are you done."  They said yes, packed up all their equipment and machinery and went away, haven't been back.  I called Chorus, and said "they're done".  Chorus said "that may not be true."  I believed them for a few weeks.  Then I called again and said "what is the block they're doing", because my web research said that that particular block (which had been announced in the local paper) only covered what they'd already done.  The guy at Chorus went through street by street with me, and I confirmed that every one of those streets was done (only about 9 streets in total, I wasn't torturing the guy too much).  Basically the guys in the Chorus contact centre can't actually see any useful information, they just get the same broadband checker we get, and are trained to say "maybe it's not done" to make you go away.  He then told me there's a local council signoff, and a Chorus commissioning step, takes 6 weeks.  Should have been finished mid-August, but we did have a lockdown for a week or so.  I saw the Chorus guy out testing it a month ago, and talked to him.  Basically, even though the guys putting the fibre in finished massively ahead of schedule, Chorus just used up the time until the originally promised date.  Whatever, I waited until a week before October, which Chorus, Vodafone and Farmside all said was when I could order it.

 

@NickR1, thanks for the offer of help.  PM on the way to you now.

 

EDIT: typos

 

EDIT: I also recalled that the Chorus website says the same - 6 weeks from finishing digging till availability, it's here: https://www.chorus.co.nz/help-and-support/fibre-installation/chorus-finished-work-cant-get-fibre

 

 


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  #2786604 29-Sep-2021 19:55
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Update for anyone interested.  The key issue here is that our address information is incorrect in the Chorus system - so for the Vodafone customer support team it showed we weren't getting fibre any time soon, even though everyone around us shows it coming soon.  That in turn led to them cancelling our order.  Nick is sorting that data out for us, which should let the order go through.


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  #2786750 30-Sep-2021 07:47
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PaulL:

Update for anyone interested.  The key issue here is that our address information is incorrect in the Chorus system - so for the Vodafone customer support team it showed we weren't getting fibre any time soon, even though everyone around us shows it coming soon.  That in turn led to them cancelling our order.  Nick is sorting that data out for us, which should let the order go through.



The address system is a nightmare! Different database to copper too which in some cases can cause havoc in what is a simple upgrade!

As someone who used to deal directly with many of the external vendors of these systems for a different provider, feel for ya Nick. I don't miss it!




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