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Topic # 30905 25-Feb-2009 11:12
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Has anyone heard of Telstra maybe offering some better pricing to compete with Telecoms substantially cheaper + (theoretically) faster current broadband plans?  Seeing as how their last move was to increase the monthly price by $10 and that they've been telling me an upgrade is coming "soon" for over 2 years, I suspect it won't be the case.

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  Reply # 197961 25-Feb-2009 11:35
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I doubt you'll see anything cheaper in terms of base prices for low to mid range plans but it would be good to see something with their highend plans.
 
The reality is that most of their plans are competitive - even TCL's 20GB cable plan give you 5GB more than Orcon give for an unbundled Orcon+ line, a year ago this would have even cost $10 less as well. It really is not surprising that TCL put their prices up to match the new competition!

The big difference is that TCL don't throttle overcap usage which is something many people do like. Their is no disputing however that their high end plans are not competitive when you start wanting 100GB + data caps.





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  Reply # 197973 25-Feb-2009 12:10
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Even the mid-high plans are a fair bit different. 40GB/month uncapped on Telecom is $80/month for an ADSL2 connection (in theory 24mbps down, 1mbps up, I'd expect about half that) Vs $110/Month for the Telstraclear equivalent which is 10mbps down, 2mbps up).

Overusage is quite different, $20/GB for Telecom Vs $1.50/GB for Telstra.

Have we seen any of the promised "improved competition" since unbundling, or is my memory just bad?

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  Reply # 197977 25-Feb-2009 12:26
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stevenz: Even the mid-high plans are a fair bit different. 40GB/month uncapped on Telecom is $80/month for an ADSL2 connection (in theory 24mbps down, 1mbps up, I'd expect about half that) Vs $110/Month for the Telstraclear equivalent which is 10mbps down, 2mbps up).

Overusage is quite different, $20/GB for Telecom Vs $1.50/GB for Telstra.

Have we seen any of the promised "improved competition" since unbundling, or is my memory just bad?


But you're comparing an effectively unbundled offering on TCL vs a bundled plan on Telecom that requires a phoneline and calling with Telecom. That's hardly a fair comparison.



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  Reply # 198018 25-Feb-2009 15:52
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That's a fair comment, I hadn't considered that fact. $145.90 for Telstras 40GB+Phone. I had a quick look on Telecoms site but see any obvious bundles that they offer. Phone is $35/mth though, plus the $80 for the 40GB, so say $115. So only $5 more than Telstras 40GB by itself for a phoneline as well. The actual monthly phone charge looks to be the same.

I've probably missed something blindingly obvious, but irrespective of my questionable calculations, the only progress I've seen in the last couple of years between the 2 big companies has been Telecom rolling out ADSL2. Obviously if they don't need to offer a better option than the competition, then they won't, but we've ended up in a bit of a stalemate as a result. Much the same situation as with Telecom and Vodafone I guess, the same with any monopolistic-competition scenario.

What we have now is ok, but faster and cheaper is always nice.

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  Reply # 198024 25-Feb-2009 16:32
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Can you actually get tcl cable without the phoneline? Was under the impression they won't give you internet without getting the phone line too.

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  Reply # 198034 25-Feb-2009 17:13
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Jizah: Can you actually get tcl cable without the phoneline? Was under the impression they won't give you internet without getting the phone line too.


You've always been able to get TCL cable without having a phoneline in the ~11 years they've been offering cable internet. The only exception has been low end plans which are only available as part of a internet+phone package.



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  Reply # 198055 25-Feb-2009 19:19
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I was one of their Wellington testers when they initially rolled it out to the public. A couple of months of extremely cheap 256Kbps "broadband" internet, and at the time our phone was still with Telecom. 4 people turned up to install it all back then! :) They don't make a big deal of the fact they do internet-only plans, obviously they'd like to have you hooked up to their phone plan as well, but until recently when number-portability kicked in, it was a very useful option. The low-latency is still nice when it's all behaving. There's a lot of high-users in this street apparently so their local system was apparently suffering, been good as gold lately though.

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  Reply # 200896 12-Mar-2009 20:41
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stevenz: Even the mid-high plans are a fair bit different. 40GB/month uncapped on Telecom is $80/month for an ADSL2 connection (in theory 24mbps down, 1mbps up, I'd expect about half that) Vs $110/Month for the Telstraclear equivalent which is 10mbps down, 2mbps up).

Overusage is quite different, $20/GB for Telecom Vs $1.50/GB for Telstra.

Have we seen any of the promised "improved competition" since unbundling, or is my memory just bad?


I have heard anecdotally that some folks using xDSL don't get throttled when they exceed their limits and have been able to clock up 300GB+/month for the price of 40G or whatever their plan is.

In fact there is somebody on this forum who posted that experience.

One thing with TCL - you don't get throttled but you also don't get free traffic :(




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