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Topic # 31404 16-Mar-2009 21:59
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I spent last week in the coromandel - specifically in cooks beach with trips into whitianga and hahei - and was disappointed to find that i never got better than GPRS broadband on my phone (palm treo 750).  The coverage maps on the vodafone site that I checked before i went indicated that there should have been "3G Extended Broadband" coverage.  Does my treo 750v not support the "3g extended broadband" coverage over 900MHz?  I was under the impression that it did..




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  Reply # 201508 16-Mar-2009 22:06
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UMTS bands: 850/1900/2100 Mhz = afraid not, needs UMTS 900. Will work on Telecom's new network tho.




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  Reply # 201515 16-Mar-2009 22:15
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Common mistake, but once again GSM is not the same as UMTS/WCDMA. So yes, it supports 900MHz GSM but not 900MHz WCDMA.






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  Reply # 201516 16-Mar-2009 22:15
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coffeebaron: UMTS bands: 850/1900/2100 Mhz = afraid not, needs UMTS 900.


Oh, i see that now from looking at the specs palm site. I knew i shouldn't have trusted Juha's article which i read and saved a link to when looking at these devices way back when and deciding which to buy.....

For GSM, you have 850, 900, 1,800 and 1,900MHz support and apparently also UMTS 3G on 850, 900 and 2100 (Vodafone NZ uses the highest frequency band)

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/5C7F8B8EC7345B1FCC2572C3001AF660

Will work on Telecom's new network tho.

Interestingly enough i dont see any networks listed - not even vodafone - if i try and select network manually....




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  Reply # 201518 16-Mar-2009 22:17
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freitasm: Common mistake, but once again GSM is not the same as UMTS/WCDMA. So yes, it supports 900MHz GSM but not 900MHz WCDMA.


yes, my mistake was my information source, as above - not the gsm/umts mixup  




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  Reply # 201519 16-Mar-2009 22:27
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Will work on Telecom's new network tho.

Interestingly enough i dont see any networks listed - not even vodafone - if i try and select network manually....


ok, a reboot fixed that - now i see "vodafone NZ" and "53005" listed there.  I can't register on the "53005" network though, if thats the telecom one.




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  Reply # 201520 16-Mar-2009 22:40
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Juha's article should have read 1900 UMTS and not 900 UMTS. In any case I doubt there were any 900 UMTS networks live at the time the article was published?

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  Reply # 201522 16-Mar-2009 22:51
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nzbnw: Juha's article should have read 1900 UMTS and not 900 UMTS. In any case I doubt there were any 900 UMTS networks live at the time the article was published?


no, probably not. 

problem was that i cut and pasted that text into a note in outlook back when i was looking (I was suprised to see the article still up on the CW site when I googled the text) and i have been using that when roaming overseas to check which frequencies i can see in order to see if the phone would roam ok (which it did pretty much everywhere i went, including the jungles in guatemala and out in the sticks in nicaragua!).  I did the same when checking the coverage in the coromandel. 




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  Reply # 201536 17-Mar-2009 06:37
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ok, a reboot fixed that - now i see "vodafone NZ" and "53005" listed there.  I can't register on the "53005" network though, if thats the telecom one.


53005 is Telecom and you won't be able to register unless you have a Telecom SIM or a roaming SIM and are on the route from Auckland Airport <-> Auckland CBD which AFAIK is still the only part of the network allowing inbound roaming.

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  Reply # 201541 17-Mar-2009 07:53
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There is indeed a 1 missing before 900 in the story... will ask for it to get added. Thanks!




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  Reply # 201543 17-Mar-2009 07:59
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I should say too that the review is a bit redundant. Run the Palm/Vodafone update, and you'll get HSDPA without having to fiddle with hacky stuff.

Having had the 750V for a while now, I think it's a great device overall still, especially if you do email a lot (which I do). My main gripe with the 750V is that predictive text can be very slow and that the keyboard keys don't always make contact, so you have to press quite hard. A bigger screen would be dandy too, but 750V one is quite adequate as it's quite a compact phone.

A well-looked after second-hand specimen should be a good buy, especially if you update the ROM image.




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  Reply # 201570 17-Mar-2009 10:04
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Indeed, apart from being slightly bulky and no wifi I really liked my 750v - great device. If it weren't for the iPhone I'd probably still be using it - these days it's gathering dust in my cupboard.




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  Reply # 201605 17-Mar-2009 13:08
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yep, its a great device but i really really wish it had wifi (to save on the horrendous data charges while in the home or office- the cable is a PITA ;). 

i have problems with the keys now too after a couple of years - the 'b' key especially.  I had an 'e' key problem early on but the unit got warranty replaced.

it definately ran better on WM6 than on WM5 - you can still find the updates around if needed.  It ran better still on WM6.1 but the keyguard lock still allowed touch screen operations when enabled so after a few pocket-dials it went back down to 6.0 again!  Its a shame that a 6.1 upgrade was never released - they were working on one.  I expect its unlikely now that the unit has been superseeded.




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