Ultrahub with multiple VLANs?

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#315174 19-Jun-2024 13:51

Hi Folks,

I'm helping a friend segment his network (he has a lot of IoT/home automation devices). He has a One NZ Ultrahub with a One NZ 'landline' hanging off the side. Does anyone know if this router is capable of running multiple VLAN interfaces on the LAN side with basic firewalling? Otherwise, he'll need to add another router downstream for inter-vlan routing/firewalling. If it weren't for the VoIP service, we would of course just replace the thing. Thoughts?

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#3250823 19-Jun-2024 14:25

Ultrahub has no such capability.

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#3250831 19-Jun-2024 14:40

Change to voice on the ont and use your own proper router.

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#3250872 19-Jun-2024 16:47

richms:

Change to voice on the ont and use your own proper router.

Don't think ONE NZ support this? @NickR1 ?

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#3250880 19-Jun-2024 16:59

nztim:

Don't think ONE NZ support this? @NickR1 ?

Plenty of other providers that do if one do not. IME best way to get any of the ISP managed gear off your network and not have the hassles of double natting.

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#3250895 19-Jun-2024 17:05

nztim:

Don't think ONE NZ support this? @NickR1 ?

You're correct - I'm afraid we don't support ATA voice services.

@mcraenz - you'll either need to add another router downstream like you've mentioned or move the voice service (with or without broadband) to a provider that doesn't require their RGW for voice services.

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#3250898 19-Jun-2024 17:26

richms:
nztim:

Don't think ONE NZ support this? @NickR1 ?

Plenty of other providers that do if one do not. IME best way to get any of the ISP managed gear off your network and not have the hassles of double natting.

Seams to just be Voyager and ONE left…. all other major providers now use the ONT ATA

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#3251002 20-Jun-2024 07:53

Thanks guys, most appreciated. That gives me what I need to present some options.

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#3251023 20-Jun-2024 08:38

mcraenz:

Thanks guys, most appreciated. That gives me what I need to present some options.

Also do they need a landline? could they do away with it and then you don't need to change ISP

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#3251050 20-Jun-2024 09:30

Yes, there is someone in the house who insists! There are of course many ways to deliver the PSTN service and getting rid of the ISP router would be optimal. But yea I'll present the options and see how much apatite there is for change.

I'm not sure what the best options are for routers/firewalls these days. Maybe something Ubiquiti? I've virtualised everything now so not familiar with what's popular in the hardware space. It needs to be easy to manage - my friend has a tech background but has done very little with networking.

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#3251065 20-Jun-2024 09:49

mcraenz:

Yes, there is someone in the house who insists! There are of course many ways to deliver the PSTN service and getting rid of the ISP router would be optimal. But yea I'll present the options and see how much apatite there is for change.

I'm not sure what the best options are for routers/firewalls these days. Maybe something Ubiquiti? I've virtualised everything now so not familiar with what's popular in the hardware space. It needs to be easy to manage - my friend has a tech background but has done very little with networking.

I have experience putting Ultrahubs behind SonicWALLs for commercial clients (creating a LAN Interface on VLAN 10 and providing a DHCP server) need to get SIP Timeouts and everything correct in the firewall policies.

Of course this is a non-supported configuration by ONE NZ who will tell you to plug the Ultrahub back into the ONT (however we provide the customer with Support)

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